Len Downie on CNN: It's CARD!

Okay, I posted this before and people said Card was IDed in the Post article. Have I had a brain glitch, or is this new info on CNN from Downie, the editor of the Post, Woodward's boss?

At first, Downie was spinning like a top to Wolf, defending Woodward for protecting his sources. Then he said the Post would identify Card as the second source (Libby already identified), and a third source remains unidentified.

ON EDIT: Begala just said to Wolf Blitzer that Blitzer got out of Downie that Card was a source, and that is big news.

ON EDIT AGAIN: Please see seafan's post 12 for a mention of Card in the article today about Woodward's apology to the Post. I don't know how I missed that (posted the article myself), and this was news to me, and, I think, was news to Begala and Blitzer.

ANOTHER EDIT: Now there is confusion over Woodward's conversation with Card, although there is no question that there was a conversation.

ONE LAST EDIT: I apologize for the confusion in this post. I look forward to more clarification as more information comes to light.

He is saying Libby and Card.

Raw Story has added Hadley.

:)

Only Hadley is still "unnamed" per MSM.

I'm not familiar with this person.

nt

Let the real fun begin.

....the more people it will expose.

He who finks out first finks best!

Quick, make another post!

I didn't even notice that........

--snip

Woodward said today he had gotten permission from one of his sources, White House chief of staff Andrew H. Card Jr., to disclose that he had testified that their June 20, 2003 conversation did not involve Plame, the wife of administration critic Joseph C. Wilson IV. He said he had "pushed" his other administration source, without success, to allow him to discuss that person's identity, but that the source has insisted that the waiver applies only to Woodward's testimony.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/16/AR2005111601286.html

and the Iron Triangle is complete

and Mary Matalin too, and Ari.. These three left around the same time. I think the WH thought they had served their purpose and needed to be away from the WH if questions started.. When no real digging was apparent, they trickled back in, except for Ari..

There's a real conspiracy here..and by the looks of it, a pretty BIG one.

and, I think, Blitzer.

This is confusing.

My take is that while Woodward apparently talked to Card, he didn't learn Plame's name/CIA identity from Card - but he still had to get Card's permission to relate something about the conversation to
Fitzgerald. Is it possible he, Woodward, disclosed her identity to Card?
Jebus, and I thought journalists were supposed to relate the news, not fuck with it.

Woodward was just "confirming" info with Card, that he (Woodward) had previously been told re: Plame, just as Matt Cooper "confirmed" with Rove what other sources had already told him about Plame...(?)

Ergo, Card was not Woodward's original source for the Plame info.... only that he was a comfirming source, maybe?

Heck, I am getting a headache!

Rove had already told him. http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/CIALeak/story?id=1265736

It is hard to keep track. We've got leakers and confirmers trading places as they tag teamed the media. One leaks, another confirms and then they switch roles.

If Hadley is the one that told Woodward as Rawstory claims, I wonder how long Condi will manage to swim above all this. She may get out untouched but IMO she's in it, although perhaps her staff (Hadley) did the hands on dirty work. I recall that Wilson said an administration official suggested he go public after Wilson again tried and failed to get Condi to retract the Niger crap and clear the record. This was perhaps a couple days after Condi was on MTP on June 8 and claimed the administration didn't know that the Niger claims were debunked. This also was around the time the WH had State's memo and the Wilson/Plame info and was planning their leakfest.

For some reason I have it in my head that Wilson's "administration official" either was Condi or someone close to her, speaking for her. (I could have sworn that in at least one interview Wilson ID'd the suggestion to go public as coming from Condi, either directly or indirectly.) At any rate, my point is someone in the Administration suggested Wilson go public at the very time they were preparing the leakfest and smear attack against him. They set him up to go public so they could swat him down? Prior to then Wilson was just a thinly veiled "anonymous former Ambassador." Anyway, Condi's in it up to her Ferragamo's IMO from peddling the dubious Niger claims to the hit on Wilson and his wife.

Will ad rates go up at CNN?

His posts:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?name=andy%20card

His profile:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~andycard/

Nothing really controversial about his posts. But he is a bonified freeper.

:puke:

LOL!

Hadley Libby to Cheney but Card & Rove to Bush!!!

It looks so much like a conspiracy and Abuse of power!!!

Pat Roberts has to be shaking in his boots!!!

Then Bush and Cheney told their closest advisors to get the word out to their trusted press whores.

And that's what happened. IMHO.

that Bush was on that trip to Niger when Powell was passing around her information.

he's such a nice man, you know, a real Christian, said, "Fuck Wilson, we're taking him out!"

I could be wrong about that. It's getting hard to keep up with the mountains of scandal, lies and fraud.

While the lawyers waited til morning to make an official announcement. Musta been a busy night that night, yeah?

This is despicable corruption now touching everyone in Bush's inner circle, from Cheney, to Libby, to Hadley, to Rove, to Card, and there's even suggestion that Rumsfeld was in on the June 20, 2003 meeting with Woodward. These people are sick puppies. Conspiracy here is obvious enough. Just depends who wants their "Get Outta Jail Free Card" fast enough when it becomes evident that the stonewall is crumbling. It's pretty damn close to evident now.

and it was Alberto the torturer who tipped off Card and waited 3 days to let the shredders work overtime.

I kind of was thinking earlier that it might be him. It's a team game.
I remember reading a post here a good while back someone posted of someone writing about their meeting with Karl and told how Card didn't like what was going on and all that. Heh. Bush has him there for a purpose. He has everyone there for a purpose. They're all team players. I can't wait to find out who this other person is! :popcorn: I got my popcorn and soda!

How did Card find out Valerie Plame was CIA in the first place?

memories:

Congressman Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, introduced a resolution to require the president and secretary of state to furnish to Congress documents relating to the so-called White House Iraq Group. Chief of staff Andrew Card formed the WHIG task force in August 2002 -- seven months before the invasion of Iraq, and Kucinich claims they were charged "with the mission of marketing a war in Iraq."

The group included: Rove, Libby, Condoleezza Rice, Karen Hughes, Mary Matalin and Stephen Hadley (now Bush's national security adviser) and produced white papers that put into dramatic form the intelligence on Iraq's supposed nuclear threat. WHIG launched its media blitz in September 2002, six months before the war. Rice memorably spoke of the prospect of "a mushroom cloud," and Card revealingly explained why he chose September, saying "From a marketing point of view, you don't introduce new products in August."

http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20051023-104217-9679r