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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:51 AM
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217-215 I cannot believe it.
Of course in the repug bizarro world, it makes all the sense in the world for the house to vote to cut food stamps, medicaid, student loans, any type of social support network. This has to be the last heaving throes of a moribund philosophy and ethic. This is going to be so sweet next year in the 06 congressionals. They keep handing us opportunities to kick their ass. The W04 signs in the trash in NOLA, cutting social programs while passing another round of cuts for the wealthy. Olympia Snow said it is beyond the pale that such things are even being discussed, let alone voted on. They are handing us control of both houses! Please lord, don't let us screw it up this time!!
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:53 AM
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1. Let's hope they all keep whining, too...
all the way to election 2006!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:56 AM
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2. Whacking student loans, that might make the collegiates rowdy
Roughly 2300 US campuses...a hundred students protesting on each campus, hmm, a quarter of a million folks complaining about Bush policy.

That would be good.

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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:05 AM
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10. students...PLUS their parents...who'll now have to
come up with more cash to send the kids to college...this will hit LOTS of people hard.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:57 AM
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3. here's the roll call
FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 601
(Republicans in roman; Democrats in italic; Independents underlined)

H R 4241 RECORDED VOTE 18-Nov-2005 1:41 AM
QUESTION: On Passage
BILL TITLE: Deficit Reduction Act


Ayes Noes NV
Republican 217 14
Democratic 200 2
Independent 1
TOTALS 217 215 2




---- AYES 217 ---

Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Bachus
Baker
Barrett (SC)
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Bass
Beauprez
Biggert
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonner
Bono
Boozman
Boustany
Bradley (NH)
Brady (TX)
Brown (SC)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Buyer
Calvert
Camp
Cannon
Cantor
Capito
Carter
Castle
Chabot
Chocola
Coble
Cole (OK)
Conaway
Crenshaw
Cubin
Culberson
Cunningham
Davis (KY)
Davis, Jo Ann
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
DeLay
Dent
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Doolittle
Drake
Dreier
Duncan
Ehlers
Emerson
English (PA)
Everett
Feeney
Ferguson
Fitzpatrick (PA)
Flake
Foley
Forbes
Fortenberry
Fossella
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Garrett (NJ)
Gibbons
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gingrey
Gohmert
Goode
Goodlatte
Granger
Graves
Green (WI)
Gutknecht
Hall
Harris
Hart
Hastert
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Hefley
Hensarling
Herger
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hostettler
Hulshof
Hunter
Hyde
Inglis (SC)
Issa
Istook
Jenkins
Jindal
Johnson, Sam
Keller
Kelly
Kennedy (MN)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Kline
Knollenberg
Kolbe
Kuhl (NY)
LaHood
Latham
LaTourette
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
LoBiondo
Lucas
Lungren, Daniel E.
Mack
Manzullo
Marchant
McCaul (TX)
McCotter
McCrery
McHenry
McKeon
McMorris
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Moran (KS)
Murphy
Musgrave
Myrick
Neugebauer
Northup
Norwood
Nunes
Nussle
Osborne
Otter
Oxley
Pearce
Pence
Peterson (PA)
Petri
Pickering
Pitts
Platts
Poe
Pombo
Porter
Price (GA)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Radanovich
Regula
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Royce
Ryan (WI)
Ryun (KS)
Saxton
Schmidt
Schwarz (MI)
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shadegg
Shaw
Sherwood
Shimkus
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (TX)
Sodrel
Souder
Stearns
Sullivan
Tancredo
Taylor (NC)
Terry
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tiberi
Turner
Upton
Walden (OR)
Walsh
Wamp
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)



---- NOES 215 ---

Abercrombie
Ackerman
Allen
Andrews
Baca
Baird
Baldwin
Barrow
Bean
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Berry
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Boren
Boucher
Boyd
Brady (PA)
Brown (OH)
Brown, Corrine
Butterfield
Capps
Capuano
Cardin
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carson
Case
Chandler
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Cramer
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (FL)
Davis (IL)
Davis (TN)
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle
Edwards
Emanuel
Engel
Eshoo
Etheridge
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Ford
Frank (MA)
Gerlach
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Herseth
Higgins
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hooley
Hoyer
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (NC)
Jones (OH)
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy (RI)
Kildee
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kind
Kucinich
Langevin
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Leach
Lee
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lynch
Maloney
Markey
Marshall
Matheson
Matsui
McCarthy
McCollum (MN)
McDermott
McGovern
McHugh
McIntyre
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Melancon
Menendez
Michaud
Millender-McDonald
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Murtha
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Ney
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Paul
Payne
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Pomeroy
Price (NC)
Rahall
Ramstad
Rangel
Reyes
Ross
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sabo
Salazar
Sánchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sanders
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schwartz (PA)
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Shays
Sherman
Simmons
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (WA)
Snyder
Solis
Spratt
Stark
Strickland
Stupak
Sweeney
Tanner
Tauscher
Taylor (MS)
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Van Hollen
Velázquez
Visclosky
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Wexler
Wilson (NM)
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn



---- NOT VOTING 2 ---

Boswell
Towns

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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:04 AM
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8. Who were the 2 dems who see their future as unemployed?
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:07 AM
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13. Figured my POS Rep. (Inglis (SC)) would vote Aye for this POS bill. nt
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:59 AM
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4. Student loans? But didn't our repug prissydunce tell us we need education?
As usual, the self-proclaimed christians are acting like antichrists...
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:00 AM
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5. Who are Boswell and Towns and why didn't they vote?! Chicken sh**s! n/t
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:06 AM
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11. Probably because it was 2 a.m. and didn't know about it.
Doesn't matter, if they showed up and voted in the negative, Dubya would have just gotten on the phone an threatened a few more junior R Congressmen to get his way.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:18 AM
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16. Boswell's been sick
He had a surgery last month and, iirc, had some complications. Maybe that's why.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:03 AM
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6. I know....
I went to bed last night thinking it was shot down, and then they twist and turn and wheedle. They should vote, and be done. We, the people, don't get to twist arms and re-vote until we like the results. They shouldn't get to, either x(
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:04 AM
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7. Latourette--weasling little piece of shit.
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 09:04 AM by Deep13
After making a big deal about opposing this budget resolution for reporters because it is bad for his district, he waffled and voted for it an hour later. This is another hold the floor open for voting until we get what we want at 2 a.m. vote. Anything that is too shameful to vote for in daylight should not be discussed in the middle of the night.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:04 AM
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9. Yup this is their coup de grace
The deficit reduction act that raises the deficit 20 billion dollars. They better enjoy their martinis with their rich buddies while they can because they'll be looking for new positions after November.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:14 AM
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15. Once the damage is done, how do we undo it when we get back into office?
"we" meaning the Dems we're apparently going to be electing in droves?

Plenty of repubs may strongly dislike *, but that doesn't mean they'll automatically vote dem either.

We can only hope.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:19 AM
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17. Once we become the majority again
we pass everything on a straight party line vote just like we did to pass the balanced budget amendment act which resulted in a three trillion dollar surplus. Not a single republican voted for it.

We will make them beg like puppies who haven't eaten in two months before we'll permit one of their bills to even come to the floor.

We'll do it just like we had to when Clinton was there.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:07 AM
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12. i watched last night, i was going back between the house and the senate
Charlie Rangel made an excellent speech and so did many other other democrats, Rangel nailed Nussle but it the end it wasn't enough. Cutting food stamps and child care--how the fuck can these bastards look at themselves in the mirror?
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:13 AM
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14. This is like trying to balance your personal budget
by making the kids drink water instead of millk, but insisting on your yearly trip to Paris.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:26 AM
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18. The Republicans who wouldn't give in
I assume there was plenty of arm twisting. For one reason or another these GOP members didn't go along.

Gerlach
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (IL)
Jones (NC)
Leach
McHugh
Ney
Paul
Ramstad
Shays
Simmons
Smith (NJ)
Sweeney
Wilson (NM)
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:19 AM
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21. Wow my Republican congressman voted against it
As much as I disagree with his conservative ideology, he's definitely not one of the DeLay lackeys...I think he lost a big post on the Veterans Affairs committee because of that. So maybe he's a bit pissed at his party
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:31 AM
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19. Melissa Hart (PA-4): The FEMALE Santorum needs to go in 06
Two Dem challengers in place: Jason Altmire and Georgia Berner(?sp). I think there is a legitimate chance of taking this DeLay loving, anti-science, RW zealot out in 2006. She is the true female version of (P)ricky.

I've already signed up to work on Jason Altmire's campaign as my personal quest to unseat Hart in 06.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:10 AM
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22. Slogan: Hartless in 06? Probably not. nt
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 11:10 AM by Deep13
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:45 AM
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20. So no Dems voted for it? Why isn't anyone giving them props for that? nt
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:11 AM
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23. I read it that 2 dems voted for it, am I wrong?
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:18 PM
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25. Two Dems DIDN'T VOTE. Not sure why. nt
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:14 AM
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24. We were raped
Thrown to the ground and a knife pressed against our throats in the wee small dark hours of the night. Modis operandi for the repukes, I'm so fucking ashamed of this, I hope every reptile that voted for this pays next year. kick it up
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 03:29 PM
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26. kick
:kick:
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