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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:13 PM
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So when did Bush Jump the Shark?
So when exactly do you think it all started to fall apart for Bush?

If I had to pick a "jump the shark" point in time, I would identify this past August, when Cindy Sheehan set up Camp Casey.

I don't want to overstate her importance, but it seems to me that as Bush ignored her outside his palatial country home, that he started, at long last, to get really hammered for his dishonesty and failures in Iraq by bored mainstream media with nothing much to do outside the gates.

Then Katrina hit, then Libby was indicated, etc., etc.

So I'd say the "jump the shark" moment for Bush was Cindy setting up Camp Casey.

Other thoughts?

- B
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:13 PM
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1. The day he joined the Yale Cheerleading Squad. n/t
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:41 PM
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49. Off the subject....
Hey Random, who are those strange rotating people in your sig? I am mesmerized against my own will! And vaguely repulsed.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:15 PM
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2. "Some people say that Social Security is the third rail in politics"
"We'll see about that"
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:15 PM
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3. Agreed. He obviously miscalculated what he should have done. nt
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ptolle Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:58 PM
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34. misunderestimated
shouldn't that be misunderestimated? I often wonder if there are days when he wakes up wondering if he should have taken the position of what me worry spokesman and head shill for PNAC and the corporoevangofascists? Or is he even capable of that much introspection?
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:15 PM
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4. I would say
the day he popped out of Big B.....all the stars where in the right alignment for failure. :7
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:16 PM
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5. What does that mean, "jump the shark"? nm
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:18 PM
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8. jumptheshark.com
will reveal all.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:18 PM
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9. Check this explanation for "jump the shark"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:20 PM
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10. The moment when success turned to failure
It came from television. There was a situation comedy called "Happy Days" that was a hit for a number of years, but it started slipping. Then in one episode, a character jumped over a shark (I don't know how; I didn't watch the show), and that episode and every one after that was so bad the show was cancelled. So "jump the shark" means the point at which an enterprise goes from being successful to being a failure.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:17 PM
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6. When he flew to Washington for the Schiavo circus.
A lot of moderates saw him then as a fanatic, or at least a servant of the fanatics.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:21 PM
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14. I'll second that
:hi:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:24 PM
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21. Me, too.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:35 PM
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47. Me as well
Nothing he has done since has worked out at all.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:17 PM
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7. Yeah, I'll give you Sheehan.
That's when it was plain for all to see that the Chimperor had not clothes.

But in reality, the turning point was over another woman, albiet one who could not speak for herself: Terry Schaivo. They screwed that up and nothing has gone right for them since.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:22 PM
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16. I have to agree ... it was Schaivo
The fact that he flew back for this middle of the night deal and how invasive it was to family rights ... that opened the shoot ... Cindy gave him a right good shove down it too.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:29 PM
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27. We just didn't know it at the time, but nothing has gone right after that.
Yeah, you could say it was the bollixed-up SS piratization, but when everyone realized that Bush, Frist and DeLay were actively persuing something that about 90% of the nation disapproved of, I think we all knew something was seriously FUBAR.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:20 PM
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11. i'll give cindy sheehan the credit. n/t
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:20 PM
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12. Saint Cindy of the Ditch put him down like the dog he is. nt.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:21 PM
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13. 1953?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:21 PM
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15. When he jumped over the barb wire in bar's uterus
and made his appearance on earth.
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bigscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:25 PM
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22. i agree
when his bat eyed mother pushed him out
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:22 PM
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17. I agree that it was Cindy. In addition to her stated goal...
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 12:25 PM by I Have A Dream
she also really brought it to everyone's attention that B* was taking a 6 WEEK VACATION during a time of war! In my opinion, most people didn't really realize this. When Katrina happened right at the end of this, people were more aware that he was on vacation while nothing was being done to save the poor Katrina victims.
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BJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:22 PM
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18. Moore's FH911 Film, Schaivo Farce and Katrina
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 12:23 PM by BJW
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:23 PM
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19. I still say Katrina.
It was blatant, widely reported, and for all to see. People saw dying fellow Americans being IGNORED by their own President. Nothing before or since has held a candle to that--it showed Bush and Co. for the truly evil, sheltered bastards that they are.
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:25 PM
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23. I agree
The whole country saw the George Bush fuck up the Katrina disaster on a such a grand scale it will never be forgotten.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:28 PM
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26. Shark surfed the swell up Lake Ponchartrain and done bit his ass
That's my way of saying: yes, it was Katrina.
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raindrop Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:30 PM
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28. Very well said
Katrina also exposed the fact that this administration doesn't know how to keep the American people safe, even in a situation where Bush had at least 48 hours' warning, and where various possible outcomes had been researched and wargamed for decades. If Bush couldn't protect us from something that was widely known and forecast, how he is supposed to prevent another out-of-the-blue terrorist attack?
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:48 PM
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33. Well, he blew it on the terrorist attack four years ago
Welcome to our message board :hi:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:34 PM
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50. Hi raindrop!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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StatGirl Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:37 PM
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38. I agree. He could have recovered from Schiavo, and even Sheehan.
But the way the Republican "government is the problem" policies led to the destruction of New Orleans got the attention of the middle-of-the-roaders. The entire Reagan revolution has finally jumped the shark.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:23 PM
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20. Birth nt
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:26 PM
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24. Sheehan wobbled him...His reaction to Katrina, finished him
It was a 1-2 punch that floored him. (and he can't get up)
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:28 PM
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25. Definitely Katrina
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 12:48 PM by Blasphemer
It put everything else he has done into perspective for all the people who still just weren't seeing that the emperor has no clothes on. There was still a hesistance to ascribe blame to Bush himself until Katrina showed once and for all that the fish rots from the head down.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:32 PM
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31. Katrina putting everything else into perspective. Good analysis.
I agree. Then Wilma cemented that lesson.

It looks like global warming bit the GOP in the butt.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:32 PM
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29. Katrina
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:32 PM
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30. mission accomplished carrier landing
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:39 PM
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32. Lotta Good Suggestions
On reflection, I think maybe the Schiavo incident might have been the real turning point when some Americans who previously supported Bush began to wonder about his judgement, and about who he actually represents.

- B
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:11 PM
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35. it was Schiavo
I agree that it was the Schiavo fiasco. Katrina was just the big, messy, attention-grabbing splash at the far end of the jump....
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:35 PM
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51. Hi Growler!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:16 PM
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36. For Bush, it should be TRIPPED over the Shark....






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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:56 PM
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37. The minute he announced for President ...
and half the country said "Oh good grief, he's going to win because his name is George Bush".

Cheers
Drifter
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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:41 PM
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39. He's in the shark.
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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:42 PM
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40. During the 2000 campaign, when he told a reporter that the first name
of Pakistan's President Musharraf was "General."
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DelawareValleyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:48 PM
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41. Day One! nt
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:48 PM
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delete (nt)
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 02:48 PM by Ravenseye
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:48 PM
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42. Right here
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 02:49 PM by Ravenseye
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:51 PM
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43. "I have political capital, and I plan on spending it."
Nov. 3, 2004.

Everything has been downhill for shrub since.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:51 PM
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44. When did George HW Bush begin puberty?
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 02:51 PM by Strawman
When did the process of spermatogenesis begin for him?

That's your answer.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:53 PM
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45. When he said he had a mandate with only 51% of the fraud vote.
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 02:55 PM by Javaman
This is like calling a character conan in a video game or taking #3(babe ruth) as your baseball jersey number. It's nothing but dooming yourself to failure.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:08 PM
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46. I think Cindy got the ball rolling, then Katrina built upon
that negative image of bush.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:36 PM
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48. When he "quit" being a coke head and found god.
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 03:37 PM by triguy46
I'm not sure I believe either happened...
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