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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:41 PM
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China in Space--worried yet?
I think Rummy wants you to be. One of the PNAC things involves "dominance of space". They think weapons when they think space. Of course , they think weapons when they think about Mc Donalds, probably.

I wonder what they will do if they go to the moon like they want?

The possibilities for paranoia abound.....
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:44 PM
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1. When China is in my Backyard...I'll be worried
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:50 PM
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2. Dominance of space?!
Um, Rumdrinker's been at the bottle again. Space is quite a big place, there's plenty of room for everybody. His old-sk00l big-bully mentality is ridiculous, to say the least. America has got to be more trusting if it wants to be a part of the international community. Of course, it doesn't yet it wants everybody to still trade with us and buy the goods we make in sweatshops in their countries... (obviously, the civilized world doesn't "get it" either...)

Is there a profit in outer space? In a supply-side economy, space is worthless because there's too much supply and hardly any demand whatsoever. And, quite frankly, the demand-side has got better things to deal with anyway.

Wouldn't Rumdrinker prefer it if the Chinese all found a planet some 500,000 light years away? I doubt it. Lots of America corporations invest in China and partake in their human rights violations. China is too valuable to America. And corporate america also sees how China rules its population and sees how they can modify Chinese tactics to work on American citizens as well. Oh, that R&D is too valuable to be moved halfway across the galaxy...
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:25 PM
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7. It's part of the PNAC ideology
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 08:26 PM by 0rganism
"Dominating space" primarily means, inferentially, dominating Earth orbital space since that's all we can regularly access at this time. Later, if interplanetary travel for purposes of resource extraction become practical, I'm sure the PNAC papers will be updated to include it explicitly.

Consider: if a nation "dominates (Earth orbital) space", it controls satellite communications and has the edge in long-range surveillance.

That said, any bellicosity towards the Chinese over a manned space mission is a farce, just as much a nationalistic booster shot as were the early orbital races between the USSR and the USA. There are far better reasons to be irritated with China, space flight is just a fat target of fluff.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:52 PM
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3. the thing that may have kept nuclear war at bay was MAD
Mutual Assured Destruction

It looks like that may be the way to go in the future also.

The fact that we were not the only super power prevented us from preemptively attacking Russia.

So if we put weapons in space so will China. Who wins? The defense contractors that's who.

The neocons have started another weapons race which can only cost us.

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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:53 PM
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4. I thought you meant the magazine
I keeps everyone so giggly and upbeat..hence no war
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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:55 PM
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5. Only if Bush is re-elected next year!
Since * just love pre-emptive strikes and escalation of tensions!
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:44 PM
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8. Umm the word is elected my friend
We all know Bush was Selected last time, he has yet to be "elected".
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:59 PM
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6. hey, there's alot of space out there... and it certainly doesn't belong to
us or anyone else... as far as I know. ;-)
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