Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

From the Crystle Blog: Calls out PA Leaders on Gambling & Education

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
srpantalonas Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:19 PM
Original message
From the Crystle Blog: Calls out PA Leaders on Gambling & Education
I said a few things tonight during my speech that I think will piss some people off, and, well, I don't care, because it's a matter of conscience. First, I said gambling is not structural solution to Pennsylvania's economic problems, it's just a bandaid. Second, we need to separate gambling and education and judge gambling on its own merits. Tying gambling to the emotional issue of educating our children is just wrong. Third, the policy of gambling to fund education is the clearest example I've seen of the need for campaign finance reform in Pennsylvania. And if you think this issue is a state issue and none of my business, maybe you're right, but I don't think so...

http://www.charliecrystle.com
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:25 PM
Response to Original message
1. as a Pennsylvanian I think your right... gambling is a bandaid
and I think the problem with tying it to education is that gambling revenues can be cyclical. As a result the schools may suffer when there are periods of time when the gambling tax revenue is not as high.

The funny part is that most states are going to pass very liberal gambling laws to get in on the "easy money"...eventually the easy money isn't so easy to attract.

Ethically I don't have a problem with people gambling but generally it is a tax on the mathematically challenged and typically those who can least afford it.

I think there was an initiative similar to this in Michigan where they tied school funding to a sales tax...and lo and behold...when the economy sours..people spend less...and guess what...that school revenue goes down as well...
(you might want to research this as well..)

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:28 PM
Response to Original message
2. I'm in favor of gambling. You have lotteries, don't you?
Casinos are just like that, except they bring more folks from out of state to bring their discretionary (tax) dollars to help you out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:33 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. yeah but with Atlantic City to the East of PA and with West Virginia
to the South West our casinos will be competing with those states...which will create a problem for them as well...so while we will be able to supposedly keep our PA gamblers in state...that is no guarantee that we will see this great gambling bonanza.

Personally I don't care but I think they are treating gambling as the magic pill...and that isn't a smart idea. What we need to do is attract more business to our state.

With Pittsburgh's fine medical centers, universities and a lot of great speciality steel and specialized machine shops we have a lot to offer....the same can be said for Philly...

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
srpantalonas Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. I'm not necessarily opposed to gambling on its own...
but I think using gambling to fund schools is morally wrong. First, the next administration can just as easily get rid of gambling, causing a massive hole in the budget and the need to really deal with the funding issue. Second, linking gambling to the emotional issue of educating our kids is morally wrong. "You'll have great education is you just approve gambling." Right. What message does it send to the kids? "You want what's best for your kids, right?" Sounds like a cheap--and I mean substantively cheap--sales pitch to me.

And as far as the campaign reform issue, substitute Pharmaceuticals for Gambling, and you have the state instituting some sort of program that increases prescription drug use so we can educate our kids. Gambling is not a natural resource, it's not structurally helpful to the economy--it's just a retail store with a little more glitz.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:44 PM
Response to Original message
5. right-o
and right on!

I could not agree more.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
srpantalonas Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. The room applauded when I said it...
The Governor had sent a representative down, who extolled the vitures of gambling and defended the Governor. It really bothered me, seling this as the panacea for the economy. He claimed 80% of Pennsylvanians want gambling. Right.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr 29th 2024, 11:54 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC