JFK Murder Solved -

Thom Hartmann's new book - discussion on Air America Radio now -
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Bobby Kennedy part of cover-up -- mind-boggling.

I remember a quote from someone - Gore Vidal, I think - he said that we started to 'lose America' when we allowed the cover-up of JFK's murder.

Hartmann's new book - released this week: "Ultimate Sacrifice: John and Robert Kennedy, the Plan for a Coup in Cuba, and the Murder of JFK by Lamar Waldron, Thom Hartmann" <http://www.thomhartmann.com/>

Thom Hartmann is not your typical tinfoil hat weirdo.

fiction, but uncovered so many documents over the years that it wound up being a work of non-fiction. Sounds reasonably well researched...

I think the latest trend in solving it is to see just how extreme a claim you can make, then see if anyone even pays attention to the evidence. It isn't the evidence that sells the books,anyway, it's the outrageous claims.

etal, played a bigger role than they're asserting, despite their alleged documentation

what about Howard Hunt's role, for example, and the TRIAL in Florida regarding said role? how does that fit in?

Octafish, Minstrel Boy?

that has another "idea" about how the crime was committed:



http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/index1.htm

Is the only person who is able to remember when Kennedy was killed who "can't remember" where he was on that day. Even my mother can remember and she was a little girl! So surely a grown adult man can remember where he was. Poppy also sent Kennedy a memo warning him about Dallas (I have that memo on one of my data discs) and he also was one of the first (if not the first) to call in about Oswald and he and Barbara were in Dallas that morning (along with Nixon but I'm not sure if they were together). Nixon also claimed not to remember but he later made something up (that didn't happen of course). He also had made references to something called Operation Zapata and Poppy had an oil company in Texas called Zapata.

They had differing accounts of their whereabouts over the years. Poppy, Tricky Dick and Watergate Howard Hunt. That's why Nixon sent Haldeman to Helms to warn him that he should call the FBI and turn them off the Watergate investigation lest it get into the "whole Bay of Pigs thing." Haldeman later wrote that Nixon referred to the Kennedy assassination as the Bay of Pigs thing.

That tell me at least two things: The Bay of Pigs involved anti-Castro Cubans run by the CIA, and E. Howard Hunt of the CIA was involved. Hunt is still alive.

Mark Lane's book "Plausible Denial" details the lawsuit Hunt brought against Spotlight for writing a story that Hunt was involved in the assassination. Mark Lane represented Spotlight and won the case. Hunt's testimony is outlined in the book and it will blow your mind.

Of course, the mainstream media ignored it. Just as they never pursued questions of the "Bay of Pigs thing".

there's a score of JFK researchers (John Stockwell for example) who've debunked him online.

Another phony attempt at "the Mafia did it".

Oswald and the Mob played the same role. Patsies.

"Farewell To Justice". Joan Mellen has been researching for seven years -- her book began as a biography of Jim Garrison and in the process studied the latest materials in the National Archives. She has found new witnesses, including the Cuban named "Angel" who accompanied Leopoldo to Sylvia Odio's house, where "Leon" Oswald was already there.

She makes a pretty definitive case against Helms, Angleton and the counter-intelligence group at the CIA.

The book is heavily sourced and footnoted and will dispel the criticisms of Jim Garrison that have been fostered by the CIA and their minions in the mainstream media over the years.

She has a website: www.joanmellen.net
This book is the most important read on the JFK assassination in many years.

IMO, Hartmann puts the blame on the Mafia -- and while the Mafia was involved, it was involved only to the extent that it was complicit with the CIA, for which certain Mafia chieftains had been working in anti-Castro activities.

It's tricky to discern the serious researchers from those who write crap books with outrageous theories based on nothing. IMO, these books are intentionally thrown out there to accomplish one thing ... to muddle the assasination work so that people believe that continued research is done by crackpots and that the truth is already known (the Warren Commission).

I haven't read Hartmann's book and make no judgments about it, but I have read Joan Mellen's book. She's a professor at Temple University and has authored many acclaimed biographies over the years.

Regarding RFK, read what she says about JFK and RFK having information that there was a plot among anti-Castro Cubans in the US to murder JFK. RFK had a team working for him in the anti-Castro communities to uncover the plot. She doesn't pull this out of her hat ... she has sources and witnesses.

She also uncovers the fact that Garrison's main source was kept secret -- it was Hale Boggs.

I've always believed and had this "gut feeling" that Oswald was just a scape goat. Someone they could blame for whatever purpose. Like they had something on him or whatever with the Russians or something. And also someone once posted a letter that Poppy Bush wrote to some cuban praising him for "telling the truth". Does anybody have that? I'm not sure if I do.

Hartmann's book and then Mellen's - they definitely covered much of the same ground, maybe their books will (on the whole) support each other.

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I read about his book last night. Is it any good? I've been obsessed with the Kennedy assisination for years. I do highly believe it involved Operation Northwoods and Cuba. That's a good start to check into it.

JFK were not brought to justice.

We have now gone a long way down that dark, dark road.

9/11 is another such moment in our history. If we do not find and expose the truth of this matter, we shall suffer for it and it will ultimately cause the total destruction of our nation. In some way sit already has. The war on Iraq would not have been possible without this mother of all lies and we will be paying for that war for generations--both economically and in terms of other social stressors.

surrounding these executions of our greatest leaders who were murdered by our Military Industrial complex and right winged extremists.


They killed America's finest leaders. We cannot let that be forgotten EVER. We owe it to RFK, JFK, MLK, and others to not stop searching for the truth and giving it a voice, and a loud voice at that.

Revenge for Marilyn.
Common knowledge.

why not, he did everything else