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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 08:18 PM
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Executed man may have been innocent
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/20/texas.execution.ap/

Sunday, November 20, 2005; Posted: 7:36 p.m. EST (00:36 GMT)

HOUSTON, Texas (AP) -- Doubts are being cast on the guilt of a Texas man executed more than a dozen years ago after the crime's lone witness recanted and a co-defendant said he allowed his friend to be falsely accused under police pressure, the Houston Chronicle reported Sunday.

Ruben Cantu was 17 in 1984 when he was charged with capital murder in the fatal shooting of a man during an attempted robbery in San Antonio. The victim was shot nine times with a rifle before the gunman unloaded more rounds into the only eyewitness.

The eyewitness, Juan Moreno, told the Chronicle that it wasn't Cantu who shot him. Moreno said he identified Cantu as the killer during his 1985 trial because he felt pressured and was afraid of authorities.

Meanwhile, Cantu's co-defendant, David Garza, recently signed a sworn affidavit saying he allowed his friend to be accused, even though Cantu wasn't with him the night of the killing.

Cantu was executed at age 26. He had long professed his innocence.

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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 08:24 PM
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1. Let me guess, * was governor?
He saw more executions as governor than any other Texas (or any other state) if I'm not mistaken.

Thanks
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whalerider55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 08:25 PM
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2. and who was governor when the execution happened?
just asking. lessee.
shrub- in the white house for five years.
prior to that, two terms as texas governor.
that would make it about.... a dozen years ago, no?

just asking.

whalerider
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 08:33 PM
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5. Ann Richards.
Hate to bust your bubble on this one, but Ruben Cantu was executed on Aug 28, 1993. That was over a year before Shrub began disgracing the office of Governor.

http://www.internationaljusticeproject.org/texas.cfm
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whalerider55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 08:56 PM
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9. the only bubble burst...
was ruben's.

whalerider

opposed to the death penalty, whether administered by a dem or a republican
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 08:27 PM
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3. thank god for the death penalty. yup.
:mad:
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 08:28 PM
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4. hahaha
texas justice just mocks the concept...they'll find out what justice is when they get to hell...lol
'texas lawmen'! omg, what a contradiction, a hypocrite's lolipop
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 08:33 PM
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6. Precisely why I am against the death penalty.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 08:36 PM
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7. I'm so sick of these fucking stories. It is just sickening
Can you imagine that torture of being on death row innocently? I hate these stories. Absolutely hate them. Makes my eyes tear up.
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 09:01 PM
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10. It is sickening!
We are the only industrialized country still practicing this barbaric form of "legalized" killing. How many innocent have died?

The Death Penalty needs to be put to death.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 08:54 PM
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8. The main reason we should get rid of the death penalty.
But not the only one.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 09:21 PM
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11. Frightening
It's disturbing to think someone was put to death for a crime they did not commit, with taxpayer dollars.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 09:28 PM
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12. While there is plenty of blame to go around...
... what kind of person lets someone go to his death because he felt "pressured"?

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 09:52 PM
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15. Depends on what the "pressure" is
Lawmen in Texas have been known to exert some pretty hefty pressure in order to make their cases.
It is entirely possible that this man who was "pressured" signed the affidavit in order to protect his family or himself from being deported...or worse.
It is hard to know what pressure that man was put under. My guess is that it was pretty significant if he knew his words were condemning another man to death.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 08:12 AM
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16. Fair enough...
... but I consider those thing "threatened", not "pressured".

But I agree it is possible they basically said "testify or you are going to prison".

Personally, I think the quid quo pro deals that are given for testimony should be severely curtailed - they are clearly often abused.
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Midnight Rambler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 09:38 PM
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13. Law of averages
With all the people they execute down here, there's bound to be a couple of innocent ones thrown in there. Hell, we even execute the retarded, innocent is the least of our worries.
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 09:44 PM
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14. The goal is to sacrifice somebody. Guilt is secondary or less
of a concern than that. If you talk to a death penalty advocate it becomes clear that the most important thing to them is to kill SOMEBODY for the crime. They really don't care too much if the person they are killing is the right somebody.

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 08:16 AM
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17. This is further proof that the death penalty works
:sarcasm:

Disgusting story, but I imagine its more common than most of society would like to think.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 08:30 AM
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18. I am sure it is very common...
And that is one of the reasons why any civilized society should not have a death penalty. The fact that even one human being could be murdered by accident by the government proves the death penalty should not exist.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 10:39 AM
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19. This is why I am against the death penalty. Too
many mistakes, too many people being
executed when there are doubts in the
case.


:grr:
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