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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 10:17 PM
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Is anyone else worried that the party nominee will be a senator in 08?
With respect to senators Kerry, Edwards, and Clinton, thier voting records are too much of an easy target for the reich wing. I dont know about you but thats the reason why I am worried about having a senator - regardless who it is be the top man.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 10:19 PM
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1. I don't really think that's a problem.
I think that's an after-the-fact excuse. This whole 'Senator's can't win thing' is kind of silly. It will be true until it isn't true anymore.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 10:27 PM
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2. Not for that reason.
I don't usually like senators unless they've had some executive experience before. Being president is very different from being a senator. It's closer to what a governor does. The whole mentality is different. As a Senator, you compromise, work with others, deal votes, and do a lot of other communal type things that presidents or governors don't do. Executives have to stick by standards, and know how to fight for an issue, and they have to know how to get something done even if it isn't exactly what they would like done. They have to have a more clear vision of what they want to accomplish, and judge each compromise and concession by whether it gets them closer to that goal or not. And they have to manage a large staff of managers and other executives. It's not a skill a person just knows, it's one they have to learn.

As for voting records or what the Repubs will use to smear a candidate, the Repubs will smear anyone, and they don't need anything to do it with, they'll just make stuff up. We shouldn't worry about what candidate can be smeared, we should worry about what candidate has the political experience and the personality to handle the smears. These guys would smear Jesus if he ran. Heck, they smear him anyway.

Having said all that, I'd still support Hillary or Kerry. Hillary was very active in the governor's mansion and the White House, so she knows more about being an executive than most of the other candidates combined. And Kerry's military experience shows me he has leadership skills.

Just my two cents.
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petepillow Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 10:31 PM
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3. we could always get a puppet with no discernable views on anything.
seems to work for the repukes...

:sarcasm:
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 10:41 PM
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4. Doesn't bother me at all. Senators are more knowledgeable
than , say Governors.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 10:45 PM
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5. Any Democrat will have their records attacked by the GOP slime balls
be they Senators, Govs, Iraq war Vets! Any Democrat will suffer, it won't matter if they were a Senator or not. Witness what they did to Howard Dean, ie., his avoidance of the draft. It won't matter!
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 10:48 PM
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6. Very true....whether one is a senator or governor is really
not an issue as to who would most likely not be attacked..

These people have no shame, look what they did to one of their own and to this day, he refuses to confront them on it...
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 10:51 PM
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7. Ah Yes! McCain! It won't matter who we put up as our nominee, they will
attack!
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:22 PM
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8. but will there be a presidential election in 08'
The bush crime family stole their way into the Whitehouse.First thing
on their agenda was "how to shape public opinion for war in Iraq" says
james baker III in April 2001. Then we mysteriously were attacked by
Osama in the most dramatic terror attack in all History.Then the anthrax murders (was that a dry run for a major germ attack on a city)
then in 2002 the faking forging fixing intel to fit the fake Iraq threat,then the war started,the raiding of Social Security,CIA outing.
Last year asscroft floated an idea about suspending the 2004 elections
in case of a new terror attacks.
With the amount of dirty laundry being kept secret from Americans it kind of makes me feel a New New Pearl Harbor looms on the horizon.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:26 PM
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9. I do think that it is easier to make a senator look bad
than a Governor. All that "He voted for tax increases 478 times! He voted against body armor for our troops! He voted to let criminals walk the streets at night!" oversimplification of voting crap is a bit easier to throw at senators.

I hope everyone can give a little credit to the fact that 1. senators haven't been getting elected lately and 2. that northeastern candidates haven't done well for democrats lately 3. many people feel that we have lost the last two elections by one state.

In my opinion, it isn't very wise to keep trying losing formulas and expect them to win.

I don't advocate nominating someone purely on whether they are from the north or south, or a senator or governor, but I sure hope we can find some good candidates from winable red states.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:27 PM
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10. Right now, I am worried about who my governor will be in 06
But I prefer an experienced senator who can lead the country than a governor who cannot.

May be it is time to remind people that we need somebody able to get the job done.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 02:29 AM
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11. yup . . . personally, I'd like to see someone from outside politics . . .
altogether . . . someone like a Bill Moyers or a Robert Redford or a Bobby Kennedy . . . maybe not them specifically, but someone with high name recognition, an impeccable reputation, and a commitment to progressive ideas coupled with the ability to communicate those ideas and why they make sense in ways Joe Six-Pack will understand . . .
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 02:31 AM
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12. Not worried. I'm quite certain it will be. I'm fine with that.
But that's me.
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