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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 04:45 PM
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I Think the NY Times Is Lurking at DU --->>>


Our DU "President Moran" thread on Sunday >

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5411142


The NY Times front page on Monday >
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 04:46 PM
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1. I can't believe they did that!
A full-page spread! Well, I guess the NY Times isn't spreading the pro-Bush propaganda anymore.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 04:49 PM
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4. All Bush had to do was PUSH the Door...he was pulling on them, bwahahahaha
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 04:50 PM
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5. Please tell me you´re kidding. They were locked, right?
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 04:50 PM
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Please tell me you´re kidding. They were locked, right?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 04:55 PM
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7. look closely and you will see the jamb preventing the door opening
towards Bush. those doors open outward....away from him....
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 04:50 PM
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6. oops, posted twice, delete, sorry.
Edited on Mon Nov-21-05 04:50 PM by Democrats_win
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 05:07 PM
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8. Oh sure they are
But they also deign to print the truth once in a while. This photo series is a real breakthrough, tho.
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 04:47 PM
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2. If they would lurk here more often
they would have beaten everyone else to the BIG stories. Plame leak, DSM, election fraud, etc., we're way ahead of the game with most of these topics and it generally takes the MSM months to dig up what we do in a few days.

All the news outlets would be better off if they spent more time at places like DU!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 04:48 PM
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3. So true
We've been running around two years ahead of the news here.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 05:43 PM
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9. This was on the Times front page?
LOL! Oh geeze, I could hear those right wing nutty cspan callers now whining about that. :)
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 06:35 PM
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10. Too bad journalism has died in this country.
Otherwise, there might be a reason for the NYT and the other newspapers in this country to continue existing.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 06:38 PM
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11. Interesting if they did, but I doubt it. Those are AP/Reuters pics
I would think the NYT had more right to them or had them already prior to whenever they had first been posted here :)
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 06:55 PM
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13. I have never seen them print a series of photos like that before
Especially not on the front page. Precisely the same photos I used, in fact. They had many to choose from. I choose to believe they stole the idea.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 07:08 PM
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14. It is the most logical way for them to tell the story
Edited on Mon Nov-21-05 07:15 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
As far as the pics go, of course they are the same, they are the same on every website and every paper that used them, as they are the ones that exist of the incident.

I did appreciate you posting the thread yesterday though, it totally cracked me up and told the story chronologically very well. I just can't swallow the notion that is where the NYT got the idea from.

This website has a good capture of the same as well, though posted yesterday afternoon:

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2005_11_20_atrios_archive.html#113251453922701697

I just think the notion to post the series that way was far too appealing for the NYT to pass up. Those pics just begggg for a series!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 10:22 PM
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19. not true - there are other pix & other angles to choose from
and I have NEVER seen the Times print such a series of pix before - that is completely new for them. I challenge you to show me where they have done so in the past. Especially page one. I will grant you maybe they are lurking Eschaton rather than DU, but I don't think they came up with it on their own. The Eschaton pix are slightly different, tho. I don't know where they came from. Slightly different shots.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 06:38 PM
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12. Now THAT is funny!
:rofl:
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 07:46 PM
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15. oh come on... that can't be real...
you guys seriously think it is? Looks like a photoshopped NYT to me.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 08:06 PM
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17. Bzzzzzzt...WRONG
That was the cover this morning.

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/pageone/scan/index.html
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 08:08 PM
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18. I stand, or rather, I ROFL corrected. Shocking. nt
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 08:02 PM
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16. that shot of him is priceless! I saved it!
And I sent it to friendlies.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 10:34 PM
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20. I love the irony too.
On Good Morning America, they showed the clip and then pointed out how it symbolized *'s trouble finding an exit from Iraq.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 10:40 PM
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21. I like the irony in that he turned to the right instead of the left.
Just goes to show, turning left is the answer.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 10:44 PM
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22. When Photo-Ops Backfire!
That seems to be where bush is now - he can't do anything right.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 10:51 PM
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23. Lord knows they're too lazy to go out and get their own news.
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