Are we all going to do the democrat thing for thanksgiving

by that I mean getting railroading by our right wing relatives. We allow them to shoot their mouths off and we sit and quietly stew but don't say anything because we want to keep the peace. They aren't interested in keeping the peace and by staying silent we reinforce their right to bully us.
Sounds like what our elected officials do that makes me so damn mad. Many of our representatives are getting their acts together, we need to also.

This year at the very least, call the relatives today and set up ground rules - if they keep their mouths shut about politics you will but if they open the door your coming in.

I'm not standing by idly ever for their ruin of my country! Been here for a year now spouting off at them. Will NOT TOLERATE THEIR SHIT, not then, not now, not EVER!

Now if I could only learn to do it gently.:grr:

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I'm not sure I'd do it in an abrasive way; just an understanding that you aren't going to talk about certain things. Unless you have the sort of relatives you can talk politics with without getting all tense and upset.

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My tongue can only be bitten for so long.I have a standing rule not to discuss religion or politics among family but my bro in law is a major thug donor.It is so hard to listen through the drivel.

Let him be sedated, not you! Put the zanax in his stuffing! Oh just kidding!

My whole family needs chilling out.

I plan to do the Democratic thing, which is bitch them out severely, like I do every year.

Right-wingers don't talk to me much about politics anymore. :D

Hearing the misuse of "democrat" is like nails on the chaulkboard for me. :)

so there can't be a "democrat thing" and I'm glad of it but we get portrayed as sitting quietly and taking all the crap because most of us are too polite to give it back. Much of it has to do with what the media chooses to put on TV. I know Dave Obey doesn't sit and take anything. I just wanted to stir the pot a little and get people thinking.

Almost my whole family is Democratic, with the exception of a few cousins who live out of state. So I don't gather we'll be having any fights this year.

I've had the talk with the RWers in my family that if they want to talk politics, I will talk politics, but they won't like it and it won't be a comfortable dinner. I feel as though if they can't respect me enough to not spew their opinions, then all bets are off. :)

In my family everyone is a Democrat and most are very liberal....it will definitely be a * slam from start to finish. My 87 year old Grandmother will be the most vocal, my teens love it.

Cheers!

Make it an old-timey Thanksgiving, like back in the day.

Fuck children! Fuck friends! Fuck spouses! If they say one damn thing I don't agree with this Thursday, I'm going to spit in their face, kick the dog and walked out the door!! Anyone that doesn't agree with my political beliefs is dead to me!! DEAD I TELL YOU!!!

I think I'm getting the hang of this...

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edit: added kick the dog

you are wonderful

potatoes.

all Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton's fault and then I'll probably softly say something like "I wonder how many of those laid off GM workers voted for that stupid son of a bitch" and then it'll really get quiet.:)

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is considered very poor manners, regardless of your views. And manners exist in order to keep peace.

Whomever is hosting your dinner has gone to a lot of expense (having just spent 400 dollars at the grocery store I know this) and a whole LOT of work, from shopping to setting the table to making those pies to getting up early to cook the bird, to finding tofu turkeys for the vegans..it ain't easy.

While at someone's table you honor them by exhibiting good manners. This is why we don't kill each other. Manners. We used to handle these things with duels, but nobody has those pistols or swords around anymore, so that's out.

Thanksgiving dinner is NOT the time to convince people they are wrong in their political views. And if they start talking politics, just say sweetly "Otto, you fucking idiot, shut your pie hole." No...no... maybe not. Just say "Otto, let's not ruin Grannie's work and trouble talking about politics. Family is more important. Now, pass the stuffing!"

Just a suggestion, but you really should LISTEN TO GRANNIE!

and asking HER to put her foot down. At my table, I do it and people listen. I do it ever so nicely, however.

Now, if the hostess is a mouthy wingnut you're screwed. I think I'd give serious thought to eating at that table, then.

just kiddin

Actually, I don't have any right wing relatives to worry about.

the fact that I don't HAVE any right-wingers in my family that we even associate with. Not to make you all jealous, but my whole family (except for one brain-damaged uncle who we don't socialize with) is liberal and we'll all be laughing around the table at the the moronic right-wingers as we always do when we get together.

The rest of you have my sympathy. I hope you get through to some of your mentally challenged kin.

Last year and the year before were so awful -- all my relatives on both sides are republican -- that I just can't face it again any time soon. Though I suppose they would probably be a tad less obnoxious this year.

So the only argument will be should the Cowboys use Julius Jones more or air it out against Denver, I think you have to establish a good ground game to open up the downfield pass, she thinks it can be done just as well with passes in the flats and flares out of the backfield. We might quarrel a bit over which characters should or should not have been included in the parade, she's more for the traditional balloons, I like to see newer characters added to reflect additions to the American culture.

at our Thanksgiving could lead to a jump across the table brawl.

Screw politics.

We have Seminole family and Gator family.

We talk about the neighbors.

When I was in college my neighbor was a FSU alum and from West Palm, we went to the Orange Bowl where they won the national championship over Nebraska, had a great time with the FSU fans.

I live in Dallas and am from Louisiana so LSU and the Longhorns to an extent for us, leaves us pretty indifferent toward FSU and Florida, no big rivalries. But we almost moved to Ft. Lauderdale and are still looking at trying to get to Miami, so if we get there looks like we'll have to learn how to sit on our hands for a game at a time of Hurricane football.

It was more fun when Spurrier coached the Gators. We LOVED to hate him! And he made it so easy!

That was universal hatred in the SEC. Yet when his trip to the NFL was up, man these same fans were burning up the internet message boards wanting him to come to their school. And he did make it so easy, and you know what? I think he loved it, in fact I know he did!

if they give you a problem, pack up your family and leave. If they don't change never have anything to do with them ever again. If your family are admirers of Chimpy McHitler, then they are subhuman filth that you should have nothing to do with them.

No family other than our nuclear family, and one friend who is staying in town while his girlfriend leaves. No crazy family and we're very very happy.

find that most people are not like us and when you do try to talk to those that are not informed, it sounds like you are talking to idiots and it just makes you even madder that they don't know what the fooey they are talking about.

The RW folks will be horribly out-numbered.

Just laugh. Heartily. Honestly. Hold your belly when you do it.

That's what I do know with the RW talking points. I just laugh my ass off at them. Each additional point they make I just laugh harder. "HAHAHAHAHA, fox news? HAHAHAHAA, are you serious? HAHAHAHAHA, oh, that's just too much. She wasn't covert? HAHAHAHAHA"

I'm telling you, they lose their ability to debate and start stepping on their words in a flash!

The right wingers, both of them, have no chance. :evilgrin:

Most of her people voted for Bush.

But I've built a nice little fifth column of some of her relatives, and her family set the ground rules.

"Do not discuss politics with Chipper, unless you know what you are talking about."

Some of her family have said, "if he's there we aren't"
Her mom's response. "We'll miss you this year." ;)

Calm, cool, confident. We are. They aren't.

foodie friends, too, serious cooks. Yum!

Screw the sitting around with people you don't really like, don't have anything in common with, and always end up fighting with. I'm spending my holiday with people of my own choice.

Oh, and by the way, I'd call that the "doormat thing", not the "democrat(ic) thing". Democrats, real Democrats, are NOT interchangeable with doormats!

Funny thing, though - my husband almost refused to go to my niece's wedding with me this summer, because he'd had one too many run-ins with some of my mouthier RW relatives. Well, this summer was a little different - my brother-in-law, the 30-year DEA agent, had totally shut up, because the outing of a covert agent was WAY over the line for him (and he does think the whole * cabal is dirty on that). My cousin and her wingnut chickenhawk husband had both totally turned their coats, too, because their grandson was being sent back to Iraq for his second tour. My one braindead wingnut sister kept her big mouth shut too - because one of her sons was also going back for his second tour of duty, leaving behind his newborn daughter.

Funny how actually having to come face-to-face with the consequences of their evil bullshit changed people's attitudes...

but I'd still rather party with my Seattle-liberal-foodie-pervert friends!

My brother and I will debate politics but no one else in the family really cares. And since we are best friends as well as brothers no grudges are held or anything, we just have at each other in a civilized manner.