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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:34 PM
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Matalin: "Everybody in town knew" that Plame was at the CIA

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Matalin: "Everybody in town knew" that Plame was at the CIA


On the November 21 edition of MSNBC's Imus in the Morning, Mary Matalin, a former assistant to President Bush and counselor to Vice President Dick Cheney, was the latest among many defenders of the administration to repeat the unsupported claim that former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV himself disclosed the identity of his wife, CIA operative Valerie Plame. Criticizing special counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald's investigation into the leak, Matalin asked, "What's the crime here?" She contended that "verybody in town knew that, and who outed her was her husband -- 'my wife, the CIA wife' and all this stuff." Matalin offered no evidence to support her assertion that Wilson himself had introduced his wife in public settings as a CIA employee.

Media Matters for America has previously debunked several iterations of this rumor (here, here, and here). Purveyors of this rumor include former CIA operative Wayne Simmons, who claimed that Plame was "traipsed" and "waltz" around Washington by Wilson, who introduced her as "my CIA wife"; and Fox News legal analyst Andrew P. Napolitano, who reported that "at least one" of his Fox News associates heard Wilson present Plame as "my CIA operative wife."

The October 28 indictment of Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby -- charging him with perjury, false statements, and obstruction of justice in the course of the leak investigation -- explains: "At all relevant times from January 1, 2002 through July 2003, Valerie Wilson was employed by the CIA, and her employment status was classified. Prior to July 14, 2003, Valerie Wilson's affiliation with the CIA was not common knowledge outside the intelligence community."

From the November 21 edition of MSNBC's Imus in the Morning:


MATALIN: What's the crime here? Everybody in town knew that, and who outed her was her husband -- "my wife, the CIA wife" and all this stuff. No crime, big gossip, politics, he's attacking us, we're answering him, and somehow people are in jail and a guy's career is ruined. Does that make sense to you?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:35 PM
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1. They need to talk to Fitzgerald
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 04:42 PM
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27. Yes, and how many of Plame's associates got whacked because some R's
just couldn't keep their big mouths shut ?

And going after a whistleblower's wife...nice touch.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:36 PM
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2. Here, Mary! Use this one, it's a little bigger!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:39 PM
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6. she said the same thing on imus show this week
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:41 PM
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9. I heard that. Now, why would Marty be SO interested in
plastering these lies all OVER the media? Hmmm? :eyes:
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:36 PM
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3. Maybe she know that they knew because she knows how
busy they all were in the admin.in spreading the news.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:38 PM
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4. How stupid do these people think we are?
oops, I keep forgetting. there are always a hardcore group of dittoheads that'll dutifully repeat this stupid talking point.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:38 PM
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5. Hmm... Wasn't Matalin on one of Tom Flocco's indictment lists earlier?
She's probably inside this crap as hell! Yeah, everyone in the conspiracy knew about it. THAT's the problem!
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:40 PM
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7. what to expect of mary matalin ???????
anything to muddy up the waters? isn't she from down the La. swamps somewhere?
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:40 PM
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8. Mary, ask Scooter your question -- and then add these.
If it's all no big deal, why did Scooter lie and obstruct justice? For a giggle?

If everybody knew, why did "two senior administration officials" call up six reporters to tell them about Wilson's wife "purely as an act of political revenge," if everybody already knew?

If everybody knew, why was Brewster-Jennings (I think that was the name of it) operational all these years, but after Novak's column appeared, the firm had to be dissolved?

If everybody knew, why do the Wilson's only now require 24-hour protection?
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:41 PM
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10. Yah sweetheart....stay out front and center!
What an arrogant bitch!!.....She looks like CRUELLA DE VILLE!!!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:42 PM
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11. I am so sick of their fucking lies
What planet does that individual live on? I wish someone would put her under oath so she could be indicted and spend some time in jail.
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maximovich Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:43 PM
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12. She Is A Traitor to this Country
its flag and the people that die for it.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:45 PM
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13. LOL, as if any member of WHIG has ANY credibility on this...
given WHIG was formed for the express purpose of SELLING the war based on lies such as the one Wilson exposed.

It is beyond laughable that she would even be accepted anybody except as the piece of slime she is.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:50 PM
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14. If the lie doesn't work 1st time or the 10,000 th time ...
just keep repeating it Mary. Repeat, repeat, repeat, it's always worked before.

They can't seem to figure out that public opinion isn't the problem. There's a real prosecutor after their asses and no matter how many times they go on FOX or CNN or MSNBC and spin, it won't have any effect.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:54 PM
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15. Seems to me she should be investigated by Fitzgerald and
anyone else who claims to have known. It seems that they too could be the source of the leak to Bob Novak and Judith Miller.

:evilgrin:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:56 PM
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16. Then she has no trouble explaining that to Fitzgerald UNDER OATH, right?
.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:01 PM
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17. Fitzgerald should subpeona her.
Get her lips flapping under oath.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:06 PM
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18. Actually, I LOVE this rethug talking point because
I can look them straight in the eye and say "Where is your empirical evidence that this is true? Was a poll taken? and was the result of that poll 100% of the population of the District of Columbia?"
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:07 PM
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19. And then she crawled back under the rock where she exists
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:15 PM
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20. Well everybody outside of town knows you are a liar
about everything
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:16 PM
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21. I wonder if all those everybodies would be willing to take
polygraph tests about when they learned about Plame, and from who.

Shouldn't everybody who makes that claim have to verify it?
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:45 PM
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22. Mad-Dog Matalin,
you are such an fscking liar.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:48 PM
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23. AFTER THEY LEAKED IT . . . then everybody knew.
That's what happened.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:51 PM
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25. But before, not even Plame's neighbors had a clue.
We know that, because Fitz actually sent people around to ask them.

Matalin, on the other hand, did not ask "everyone in Washington" before she made that statement.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:49 PM
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24. Well, Then, Mary, Let's Get the Whole CHENEE-ing Crew of You under Oath
and see what else you knew.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 04:35 PM
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26. how does carville stand it? n/t
?
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