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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:20 PM
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Do you think at this point, if Bin Laden would be caught....
Edited on Thu Nov-24-05 10:24 PM by sabra
would it really do anything to help *'s slide to the bottom. I would think it possibly would give him a little bump, but nothing really dramatic.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-11-24-bush-history_x.htm

History shows Bush has a challenge ahead of him

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"Right now, it's hard to see how he revives himself other than to get lucky and capture Osama bin Laden or the war in Iraq suddenly takes a turn for the better and troops start coming home," says Gary Jacobson, a scholar on presidential approval at the University of California, San Diego.


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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:23 PM
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1. bush CAN'T catch OBL.
He'd have no bogeyman to trot out when convenient.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:23 PM
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2. It would, Probably up to 45% or so
At least 10% of those opposed to him do so because they feel he keeps failing. There are always at least 10% fickle in society that go back and forth with the headlines. If he takes osama out of the basement in shackles I betcha see him up to 45% and more in no time.

But FEAR NOT. With Abramoff, Fitzy, Delay, Frist, etc, he won't be there long :)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:38 PM
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9. It's a beautiful thing, this culture of corruption. So many
criminals, where do you start and more important, how will it end?

It's not beautiful, but they're just proving what we've known
for so long.

And please add Iraq and Katrina to that list! :)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:53 PM
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13. 45%... for about a week. It'll QUICKLY go back down as people are now
far more concerned about their futures and ability to even LIVE than what some rampant tinpot dictator wannabe may or may not be plotting.

Without a solid job and means of living, people will not give a flying fuck. What's left TO defend? And I think even the neocons didn't anticipate that either.

If a crash comes, people will be apathetic. They will have nothing they feel is worth defending. End of story. The existing enlistment figures seem to be proving that too.

And you can thank reaganomics and the excessive individualism/forget others/opportunism/dog-eat-dog that the same fools told folks to believe in. Whoops! :dunce:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:24 PM
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3. bin Laden's long dead. Besides. CAPTURING him would be the last thing
Bush would want because then we might find out who really did 9-11. It has never been investigated and far more of the evidence points to an inside job than to OBL.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:27 PM
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4. I think it would only keep him from sliding down for a week or so
It's past the point now where catching OBL will help him in any way.

Thank God!

This asshole's last two years are gonna be hell for him, to say nothing of his next year.

To be in the 30 percents in year 5, that's pretty tough.

I hope he blows a temper tantrum sometime in the next year and blows a few gaskets and blood vessels and needs to step down.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:29 PM
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5. NO ONE WOULD BUY IT.
timing would be too convenient.

and the 30 % that would buy into this, will never relinquish their kool-aid.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:31 PM
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6. Not Likely
Edited on Thu Nov-24-05 10:31 PM by mermaid
Most of the public would realize they were just having another scapegoat trotted out in front of them. A short bounce, then back down in the dumps he goes.

The loss of OBL, a convenient boogeyman, wouldn't be worth it to Bush for the short-term gain he'd get out of it...unless it was right near election time.

And such a move might REALLY haunt Bush, because OBL just might spill some beans Bush would rather not be spilled. I believe the Administration itself has blood on it's hands from 9/11...and no one is going to convince me otherwise.

Bush knew...Bush might've even planned, or helped, at least. Go figure. Who ordered the AF to stand down on 9/11? Who has that authority? Yet, the AF was on stand-down when 9/11 happened, which is why it took nearly an hour after the first plane hit to sortie up some fighter pilots.

By then, the damage was done. When the golfer (Payne Stewart, was it?) had his plane go off course, it took all of 16 minutes for AF fighter jets to be scrambled, and tail that sucker, all the way till it went boom in South Dakota. but it took an hour to scramble jets right after 9/11. Does this not look suspect?
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:34 PM
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7. What if they trotted out the flat-nosed OBL again and he flubbed his lines
The humiliation. It's one thing when they've got him in the studio with prepared script and fuzzy video cameras.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:35 PM
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8. He would definitely bounce. I mean, come ON, 90% of
Americans gave him positive approval ratings for just being president on 9-11. People love to unite behind a president, even if it is for no good reason, just because it makes them feel patriotic.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:41 PM
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10. a brief "bounce" back to 40% (55% disapprove).
A week will pass and then reality will settle in again (back down to 35%).
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:50 PM
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11. Two possibilities.
Edited on Thu Nov-24-05 10:55 PM by gordianot
OBL is a Bush team player.

He really is an independent terrorist and understands that he should never be taken alive and his body should never be found.

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:52 PM
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12. Bin who?
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 11:55 PM
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17. HA - you beat me to it!!!
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:53 PM
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14. Here is how georgie envisions OBL




He won't be caught. I said that on 9-11 and i will say it today.
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:53 PM
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15. I think it would increase the pressure to bring the troops home.
Most folks would assume with OBL captured the war on terror is over and it's time to bring the troops home for the parade down broadway (does anybody else remember Rummy floating a trial balloon about such a parade in 2002 on the 4th of July? Guess that was an idea that didn't work yes?)
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 11:54 PM
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16. Osama WHO?
:evilgrin:
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