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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 11:18 AM
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Show us your papers, please.
About a woman in Denver who refused to show her ID just to commute on a daily bus ride to work. Eventually the Feds got involved and the case is now working it's way through the courts....

http://www.papersplease.org/davis/index.html

Heil Bush!
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 11:18 AM
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1. papier, bitte.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 11:19 AM
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2. This is just outrageous!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 11:21 AM
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3. There will always be very good people with bad papers
And bad people with very good papers.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 11:25 AM
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4. What? You have no papers
Only terrorists have no papers. Achtung. Take her to jail.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 11:28 AM
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5. and yet, still. . . the first person to use the word "Nazi" loses?
Being required to "show papers" on a public conveyance for no particular reason is despicable. But "everything changed" on 9/11, and many, if not most, citizens see nothing wrong with this.

"I haven't done anything wrong, so 'why not?'"
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 12:26 PM
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10. "Everything changed" after this "terrorist attack" too
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 12:28 PM
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11. If most citizens see nothing wrong with this
then they need to be reminded of Nazi Germany.

There... I invoked "nazi" one more time. In this context it is entirely proper.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 11:47 AM
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6. This is so bizarre
1 - why would ordinary people have to show papers?
2- why would suspected criminals have to show papers?

Did I miss some law that got passed? Or is this all swept under the Patriot Act?
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 11:55 AM
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7. I seem to remember something about "Probable Cause"
Unconstitutional to search a person's being or their papers without a warrant or in later days "Probable Cause".
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 12:06 PM
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9. It seems that "probable cause" since the Patriot Act is NOT allowing them
to see ID or search your vehicle. It's the old "if you're innocent then you have nothing to hide" BS.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 12:30 PM
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12. That reasoning was used in the Salem Witch Trials.
Why, oh why, am I not surprised to see it now?
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 11:55 AM
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8. We live on the border of Canada & it's not uncommon for a border patrol
check points to be set up since 9-11. It's pretty so surreal to have this happen in my own country and not while actually crossing the border.
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 01:48 PM
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13. Likely not long till the bus stop has a sign reading: "Arbeit Macht Frei"
What the FUCK is happening to my country??
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FearofFutility Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:24 PM
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14. I think the woman is related
to a DU'er. I remember reading about this a couple of days ago.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 09:16 PM
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15. k & r....n/t
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