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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:52 PM
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Our troops are being treated TERRIBLY by Bush!
Edited on Thu Oct-16-03 10:54 PM by Loyal
I'm getting so mad when I hear these stories about Halliburton getting no-bid energy contracts while some troops are still eating MREs. How about some decent food for our troops? How about we look at this 87 billion and cut out some money that would have gone to the energy contractors and give it towards entertainment for our troops? They're out there risking their lives and they get Wayne Newton on USO. I don't know about you, but I don't think that's great entertainment. They should be getting the absolute best. They should not STILL be eating MREs 7 months into Iraq. They should be eating crabs and lobster and I hope that Congress pays for them to have DVDs to watch, etc. Bush is so selfish.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:58 PM
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1. Why don't we get them out?
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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:01 PM
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2. Because I don't think that
UN blue helmets are trained to handle this kind of guerilla war. I don't think they could handle it. Look, I opposed the war. But we did make this mess, Darranar.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:10 PM
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5. Once, I agreed with you...
but there are a few problems.

1. The longer our nation remains there, the more resentment towards the US will grown.

2. Our government really cannot handle the kind of humanitarian procedures that need to happen here alone.

3. As long as the military forces are under US control, it will be seen as an American occupation. The entire thing needs to be handed over to the UN.

4. US troops are no more fit to face guerilla warfare then anyone else. They were, after all, supposed to be "liberators" and not occupiers.

5. The US will spend more moeny and will lose more troops the longer it remains in there. This will end up being additional moeny for powerful corporations belonging to the military-industrial complex.

The US should help fund the UN project. They simply shouldn't have any more control over it then, say, Germany.
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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:28 PM
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6. I agree
As long as we are doing our fair share.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:05 PM
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3. and they have to pay for their r&r, and their hospital meals
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:10 PM
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4. He's Privitazed The Supply Lines
Unfortunately, the companies are making money hand-over-fist and their employees---being civilans---do not belong in a war zone. Insurance costs too much.

Therefore, nothing is getting delivered unless it's in a heavily secured area well out of harm's way and Dimbo dosen't care if they get enough food and water while he has fund faisers to attend and golf to play.
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SuperPatriot Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:40 PM
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7. No kidding
Bush supporting our troops is one of the many lies this administration has told, ive read accounts of families who have members serving over there in Iraq,some of their accounts are shocking,soldiers being forced to go out in dangerous patrols without radios or fully functioning equipment. Some soldiers have written back home asking their family for equipment the military should be giving them like nightvision goggles and kevlar vests. The most sickening thing ive read is of injured soldiers being forced to pay for their own meals while in military hospitals. The soldiers say the hospital staff have a look of shame everytime they have to give the soldier his bill.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:59 PM
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8. Unfortunately, we are there, and there is no immediate...
way out. We need to get international backing via the UN, but the morons in DC have gone so far out of thier way to alienate the rest of the world, this will be difficult at best.

As for the meals being paid for at hospitals; this is a nightmare beacause of bungling. The notion of seperate rations comes to mind. Soldiers are often on Seperate Rat's, and the gov't want to re-coup that money paid to them. IMHO, this should be a non-issue, and the gov't should just feed them for free. Some moron, is taking advantage of the law, to ensure that people are paying their rat's back. It is stupid and non-essential.

The very idea that we are in Iraq isa baffling, there should be outrage that no WMD's, Hussein and bin-Laden are nowhere to be found.
The poulation should be storming the gates with oitchforks and torches, demanding answers, but we all sit and complain from distances too far to travel. I have written so many letters, sent so many faxes and e-mails, that I think my keyboard is about to rebel.

:kick:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 01:37 AM
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9. 2 liters of water , and 1 mre a day
You can't live on that :mad:

The protective vests they are supposed to be wearing
haven't been shipped to Iraq yet :grr:

1 extension after another

1 weekend a month my ass !
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DrBlix Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 01:40 AM
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10. Read this
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 01:58 AM
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14. Yes I've read that
And it makes more me dedicated than ever to get
bush the fuck out of office .
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 01:45 AM
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11. Last year someone told me...
that the troops adored "President" Bush and would glady fight wars for him because he is a "good, moral, Godly man".
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 01:51 AM
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12. Bush doesn't give a shit about our troops.
Bush is more interested in giving profits to Halliburton. Bush and Cheney should be in jail for collaborating with Binladen and the Saudi royal family (i.e., the Fauds).
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DrBlix Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 01:51 AM
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13. This is building into
a situation not unlike Vietnam. I watched a discussion on C-Span about this a professor from some college can't remember which one, was saying that it hasn't reached the stage yet when the people took to the streets during the Vietnam war and it is now about how it was in 1967.
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But given time if they do not resolve this thing soon people will arise the same as they did back then.
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I don't remember the year when the Vietnam protests exploded but they did in the end..end that war. Let us all hope it doesn't come to this.
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Again read this....
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/101703E.shtml
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William_WaLLace_ Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 02:02 AM
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15. I wonder how much food and water
The Iraqis are getting? I wonder if there getting bulletproof vests in case they get caught up in a firewar, and get shot through no fault of their own, happens daily. I wonder if there getting proper medical care and have electricty yet?

I wonder sometimes with all these troop threads, and a noticeable lack of Iraqi concern threads, where is the sympathy for these poor souls whose only error is being born in the worng place at the wrong time.

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DrBlix Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:51 AM
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17. Yes at the wrong place at the wrong time
People have a difficult time relating and can't imagine that, there for the grace of God go I.
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The way the Bush Cartel are trashing American financially and our name abroad with more and more people hating America and Americans every day, we could all be "in the wrong place at the wrong time". Bushinc have put a bullseye directly into the heart of America.
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As for the troops being poorly supplied it is disgusting. They privatized the process and private companies are contracted to supply the troops. This is a classic example of how privatizing everything in site just does not work.
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One thing for a convoy of supplies to get attacked in war another when the private supplier decides not to show up cuz it's too dangerous and isn't worth the money.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 02:22 AM
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16. 1/3 of our deployed military have low morale, 1/2 won't reenlist
Stars and Stripes survey is here:

http://estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=18086


I'd like to see a survey done on Halliburton's morale and see if we can draw any correlations.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:05 AM
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18. $166 Billion for Iraq, No vests for troops
This is the real travesty. Where is all this money going? To Halliburton, of course.
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DrBlix Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 02:54 PM
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19. Cheney has to go
Halliburton, Betchel and others have contracts with Dyncorp for security reasons.
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Dyncorp has less than an A rating Paramilitary) if you do any checking they also supply mercenaries in many other conflicts to protect corporate interest.
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Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz are pushing this situation beyound the limits and certainly not directing foreign policy in Americas best interest, and are now ready to expand this war into Syria and Iran. It's volitile and extremely dangerous what is taking place and imminent.
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The lies told to get approval for a pre-emptive attack on Iraq were mainly generated from these men with Cheney ahead of the pack.
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Lies now continue to continue on into Syria and Iran.......
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The leak about Wilsons wife is directly connected to Cheney through Rove.
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VP Agnew resigned for far less and Cheney needs to be confronted and investigated ASAP.
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