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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:55 PM
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How much was/is your student debt/loans when you graduated?
Combine under & grad school. I was shocked my friend of 40 years told me her daughter had $100K loans from under & law school. I went to a state college and I had no loans, 35 years ago!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:58 PM
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1. I went to a private university in the late 60's
My parents worked sewing in factory tailor shops and could pay for my college. No loans or debt of any kind. A whole different era for sure.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:50 AM
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30. Same here eleny
Lots of scholarships and the low costs of the past made me debt free.

However the cost of collee has gone up at twice the rate of inflation for 20 years now.

Someone who works at a college, please try to explain this to us. Why has college gone up twice as fast as everything else for tw decades now? It is pricing itself out of middle class families' abilities to pay for it.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:40 AM
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39. I worked mine off by teaching
Took off 20% of the balance every year I taught in a low income school. So I basically went for free.

But my payments - if I had not taught - were only $15 a month! I don't remember the balance but my tuition was around $200 a semester so it couldn't have been too high.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:58 AM
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48. This much I can tell you: the rank and file ain't getting the money. nt
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:59 PM
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2. Ok, I'll say it...but I'm embarrassed...
My student loans totaled $87,000.

Ugggh.

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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:00 AM
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3. F*CK!
How long do you have to pay it off? What interest rate?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:04 AM
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5. We are on a 10-year payment plan...
We pay more than $1100 per month, so we can pay it off in less than 10 years.

There were several payment options available. We chose the most difficult one. There was a 30-year option and the payement was like $300 per month.

However, who wants to be paying off their student loans while they are collecting Social Security? ;)

The interest rate is 5.25.
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TimeToGo Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:01 AM
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4. GI Bill helped a lot
$10,500.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:21 AM
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13. ohmygod, ohmygod
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:04 AM
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6. 6000 i think.
i bot pot with it and some books about pot
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:05 AM
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7. $20,000 ... for a business degree, then became an artist!
Still worth it, though. Sacrificed much during the "Roaring 90s" to pay in full, because once I stopped fawning over Clinton, and rationally examined the foundation of our economy, I just knew a shitstorm was coming sooner or later.

Currently debt-free.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:05 AM
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8. Zip. Zero. Nada.
Never got a loan. Family couldn't help much either. The only "scholarship" I got was two years at the Coast Guard Academy in New London. After that ... Worked my ever-lovin' ass off and ran like hell. Did graduate school on the GI Bill after Viet Nam ... part-time student, full-time wage-slave.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:08 AM
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10. Great story, TN.
You should be proud of what you did on your own. Congratulations.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:25 AM
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15. (lol) You wouldn't believe the number of credit hours I accumulated ...
... going to a military academy (seamanship, navigation, etc.), a small southern Jesuit college (theology, philosophy, etc.), and a northern urban commuter university. I went from semesters, to trimesters, to quarters. My "major" changed from engineering to physics to mathematics (no papers or labs), with graduate work in computer science. I didn't learn about dropping courses where my prerequisites didn't prepare me until the end of my junior year and even then we were warned that if we dropped a course (going below a full-time load) we'd be exposed to the Viet Nam draft. You wouldn't believe how tough it was to "catch up" in a quarter-long course where the prerequisites didn't match. You wouldn't believe how tough it was to carry a full-time load and work enough to pay for it. (I have occasional nightmares even 40 years later - both about the pressures of college and Viet Nam.)

I was a National Merit Scholarship finalist in high school and I hadn't the foggiest idea what the scholarship offers I got meant. (Since I was planning on the Academy, I didn't follow up on them.) God!! Those were crazy days -- my "sixties experience" was a series of clusterfucks (the love generation).
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:40 AM
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21. Wow, TN
That's an impressive amount of stuff to have handled. Kudos to you, dude. Sorry about the nightmares :hug:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:37 AM
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26. Thanks, luv! Needless to say, I don't have much patience with ...
... the reichbots who coasted through on Daddy's money and arrogantly talk about "entitlement liberals" and how they themselves "worked for it." No college student should have to go through the crap I went through. If there were ever a time in education that a student should have the time to really study while keeping in touch with the real world without panic, it's college. We've got to make that possible for every capable, motivated student! I was lucky - born with a very high IQ. That made the difference, I think - stupid as I am. But if only a small fractional percentage of students are lucky enough to be mentally-equipped to grasp some studies with about one-third the mental effort in order to squeak through, that's not enough to make a humane world. At the same time, we just can't "dumb down" (for mere regurgitation of rote crap) the courses any more!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:08 AM
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9. MD loans at 180,000 are not uncommon.
"aid" these days means loans for most students - not scholarships.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:20 AM
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12. You OWE
$180K????
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:43 AM
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40. Not me - MD'ed relatives just out owe in that range - even after
paying most of the undergrad.

50,000 per year borrowed in Med School adds up quickly
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:33 AM
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17. I had around 140K when I finished training.
Went to a state medical school, still had it. Some of that is due to the problem that as a resident, you make enough to pay the bills, but not enough to pay even the interest on the med school loans, so it goes up and up. I think I had at one time something like 7 Staffords, 4 Perkins, money to family, and revolving introductory credit card rates.

In all fairness, my loan to income ratio was about the same as someone getting a bachelors or liberal-arts masters. It gets paid down quickly, even in a low-income specialty and an academic/government position..
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:18 AM
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11. Parents were able to cover me through 3.5 yrs - I took a $1000 NDEA loan..
... for my final semester. Long time ago.

Grad school was part-time and costs were paid at registration. Long time ago.



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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:25 AM
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14. zero
I worked and paid tuition from my salary as I went along plus I had a scholarship. Those were lean and frugal days
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MarsThe Cat Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:28 AM
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16. i didn't graduate, but in my two years i ended up owing $3500...
25 years ago.
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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:37 AM
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18. $600 for a M.A from UC Berkeley. Tuition was$75.00 a semester!!! 1961-62
I had an NDEA loan. Most of it was for art supplies and living expenses.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:39 AM
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19. I remember about that
much from LACC and UCLA in the late '60's
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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:40 AM
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20. No graduation, 1 1/2 years of comm. college..
$16,000 after interest... I just consolidated them thru the dept of education though, so now my payments are income-based...which for me comes out to $0 (I'm under the fed. poverty level for my family size)
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:42 AM
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22. Around 13K
When I 'left' (have yet to graduate) 3 years ago. I'm paying those off slowly, plus pay-as-you-go on classes right now...
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:52 AM
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23. I will not live long enough to repay them
I have more than $40,000 in loans, and have a BA. I haven't managed to land a "real" job yet; I'm making $9.00/hour part time at a phone bank.

Statistically speaking, I have less than a 50% chance of still being alive in 20 years, going on the oral cancer stats alone. Chances are I will still owe on my student loans when I die.

Tucker
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Spangle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:03 AM
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24. Some countrys have free higher education
Denmark for one.

Those places pay high taxes, but they have medical and they don't have to save for their childrens education. Nor do their children have to pay for their education. They just have to make the grade.
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Scooter24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:36 AM
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25. My education has cost about $250,000...
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 01:38 AM by Scooter24
I went to private schools for most of my formal education past the 5th grade.

Middle School was 3 years @ $10,000 per year. $30,000
High School was 4 years @ $25,000 per year. $100,000
College is 4 years @ $30,000 per year. $120,000


My parent's income is too high to get any substantial federal aid so we usually pay the tuition, minus any grants and scholarships, out-of-pocket every year. I'm a senior now, and have about a $4,000 balance with the school.

Law school will add an additional $120,000.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:40 AM
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27. For a BA, MA and half a PhD from a state university
(but I was an out-of-state student)

$25,000

I have about half of it paid off and should be out of debt by this time next year.

Having to work 20-30 hours a week and stressing about debt were two of the primary reasons I didn't finish grad school.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:18 AM
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28. About $12,500 in total.
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 03:19 AM by tenshi816
I had a grant for one wonderful year when Carter was President, but after Reagan took office it disappeared, so I had to take out loans. I also worked 30 hours a week doing research in a law firm.

I finished paying off the loan the month before I moved to the UK. Since then, I've done another degree (graduated in 2003) and now owe about £7,000 in student loans once more.

Edited for typo.
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emmajane67 Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:15 AM
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29. I owe $45,500 at this point, and
I worked the whole way through my studies too.
It is in New Zealand Dollars though, so I am in England trying to pay it off in pounds (exchange rate is about 1:2.4).
It is really stopping me going on to do my maters and Phd which I would love to do.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:34 AM
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31. Zero.
I was lucky because my parents could afford it. However, I'll have to work at my current job for a few more years in order to recoup the expenses. :mad:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:41 AM
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32. 30 grand for my masters in teaching...
which will give me just enough of a pay raise to cover my loan payments.

heh.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:43 AM
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33. Lol! Did you see the God Warrior bobble-headed doll..?
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coyote Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:47 AM
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34. between undergrad and dental school...$210,000 worth of debt
about 30,000 from Cornell undergrad....and 180,000 from U Mich dental.
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sbj405 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:54 AM
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35. In dollars, zero - Service Academy. There are other forms of payment
I had assistantships for grad school. So zero there, too.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:07 AM
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36. Zero
The CUNY was still open admissions with free tuition when I attended. I also lived at home, since I couldn't afford to go to school and pay for my own place at the same time.

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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:08 AM
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37. The cost of a new car at the time (1977) - $6K
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msrbly Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:35 AM
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38. $75,000!!!!
Public undergrad and private law school (w/75% tuition scholarship). Makes me sick to think about it. I will be paying on these loans for the rest of my life.
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dryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:51 AM
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42. Zero......
After I graduated from high school, I worked 2 jobs and saved my money. I started college a year after high school. I worked the entire time that I was in college. I didn't want to walk out of college with a diploma and a lot of debt.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:50 AM
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41. More than I'll ever be able to pay off with music degrees.
I guess they'll send me to debtor's prison someday.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:55 AM
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43. $43,000
$24,000 after BA from University of Texas (worked 20 hours a week the whole time and had some private scholarships!)

additional $19,000 after doing one-year MA in the UK.

I finished my MA in 2002 - I now owe about $41,500. I will be paying it off until I am 50. I also cannot save anything.
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fhqwhgads Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:13 AM
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44. $30,000
I'm totally a product of public education from kindergarten on through, save for the first three months of my college career (started at a private school and transferred to a public - though it had nothing to do with the money).

Finished school in 2001...debt is now down to around $18,000 I think. I pay roughly $300/mo. on it...wish I could pay more but the cost of living here in the NYC area is just absurd. Hoping to pay it all off in five to six years...for that reason I'll probably have to put off buying a house or apt for longer than I'd hoped.

My sister attended an elite private school for college and is now in graduate school at another elite private school. Her debt will be well into the six figures when all is said and done.

So I'd say my education was a bargain.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:46 AM
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45. None
Completed the first 2 years while in the Army getting 75% tuition assistance, then worked my ass off while getting GI Bill for the last 3 years. Ended up with 2 degrees and no bills.
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:51 AM
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46. Around $22,000
Grants paid for the rest of it. I went to college 1987-1990. I worked 40+ hours a week the whole time. I dunno how I managed it all.
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:54 AM
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47. $15,0000. That included a bachelor's degree from a state
university (no loans), a masters degree (no loans), and a doctorate from Hopkins (the $15k).

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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:58 AM
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49. $10K, I took 6 years to pay it off.
All of it from my PhD. I worked extra jobs all through my undergrad and my masters to avoid them. When I got into my Ph.D. program I decided studying and research were more important than the 2nd and 3rd part time jobs. But I also had to supplement my TA to make it through 4 summers with no appointment.





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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:59 AM
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50. $20K - engineering degree, paid off in 6 years.
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