What happened to Mel Gibson?

Why did he turn into Saddam Hussein?

He's a dead ringer!

isn't a religous fanatic.

:crazy:

We've found OBL! Come and get him!

we should be told !

he's right into the church, the mass, probably the rosary. While some of these people can be quite stupid, in general they each one confront the 'sinfulness' in themselves, and thus are not too judgemental on others, esp. non believers....I recall Gibson disliked the bush vortex the gopig says is draining america 'o' evil and nastiness etc but mainly seems to be draining our coffers (fort knox now called fort rocks)....
btw i never saw his show 'the passion..' and won't because i visted the Mount of Temptation once, where Jesus spent '40 days' w/out food or water being tempted by lucifer. When you see the place legend has it that Jesus spent the time, the granite rock now worn a foot deep by countless hands rubbing it, over thousand years, movies really gotta be inspired! (btw the muslims razed the orginal monastery and killed the monks; you can see a few of their ancient skulls; one of the earlier christian crusades provoked the muslims to destroy hundreds of christian communities around israel, estimates that 6000 monks were murdered at the time

I remember Gibson making a very snide remark about the nonexistent WMDs in a TV interview. This was on either ABC or NBC during the Passion craze.

Also see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1317840/posts

thanks

for the most part christians, jews, muslims lived side by side, and looked and dressed alike. There were temples, mosques and basilica everywhere, sometimes all three even in the smallest towns.

The first crusades that landed slaughtered whole villages of christians because they couldn't tell christian from muslim.

Go figure. let god sort it out.

But the premise was that "The Holy Land" was under siege by heathens, and that they would eventually come to europe to stamp out christianity and sacrifice christian babies to their heathen gods.

Terror, terror, terror, we must invade, sound familiar?

your post is so ahistorical it made me laugh.

laughing. (on edit, you were snide)

I laugh at you all the time so we're pretty much even - I'm sure I'll be laughing again very shortly.

I'm waiting . . .

more edit, since you're a bit slow to respond. I'm not saying things were idyllic but they certainly weren't "christians" held in bondage by the evil bad heathens that most people think of.

And DO NOT quote that stupid movie as your historical referent.

So you're saying they decided to fight them "there" (The Holy Land)instead of having the fight them "here" (in Europe). No wonder they call us crusaders. It's a repeat performance. Interesting. And sad.

Pope Urban II was getting ticked off at all the highway robbers and rude locals in Jerusalem who didn't care much for pasty white Europeans poking around their ruins declaring everything to be holy and untouchable by heathens.

The Turks weren't as nice as everyone would have liked, but the first crusade was never intended to be an expansion of western civilization and a european migration to the middle east. It was originally seen as a way to get everyone united on a foreign enemy rather than bickering at each other and also got some rather dangerous military forces out of Europe and away from Urban II. It was "talked up" to the commoners just like Iraq, and is still justified by catholics and "christians" religous scholars as necessary.

That's why I laugh at Amish' assertion. And we did kill and rape christians who wore long flowing robes and turbans because we couldn't tell the difference and furthermore didn't care.

Anyone who thinks the crusades happened because they were justified probably also thinks Final Solution happened because it was justified or else didn't happen at all.

realize they've been had. :shrug:

the dedication of so many communists, to humanity, and to our dignity and hopes etc, is a terrible thing to consider, in light of how stalin was crushing so much of the human spirit, using that very dream to inspire what mutated into the worst aspects that we know of....nothing can explain the almost instinctive dismissal of the 'dream' (communism is an idea that power can be held and used by the common for the common people...the details of how to administer it, well, the ussr was one effort, pr china, n.korea, cuba were others) except how this betrayal felt by vast numbers who have since chosen to believe that, humanity cannot be saved from itself, and better to live privately, and fukk you jack etc (see the neo cons)

:D

:hi:

:puke:

Wonder if he's wearing loin cloth ...