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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:19 PM
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Moyers: The Admin Turned Its Hitmen Loose on Us
Wow. I really admire Bill Moyers and the way he speaks out for truth in journalism. Read about it here:


http://www.broadcastingcable.com/index.asp?layout=articlePrint&articleID=CA6286824
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:20 PM
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1. I have a dream -- Tomlinson is gone so now Moyers can return
I like David Brancaccio but "Now" hasn't been the same without Bill Moyers. BRING HIM BACK!!!!
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:21 PM
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2. Same Here
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:26 PM
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6. from your keyboard to God's screen!
I'm so with you on this...Moyers is a treasure of democracy, and has been for a long time. He'll be back.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:01 PM
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13. Especially if you read the interview ...
He said that he felt he was tangling with demons that were too big to tackle from the inside and that he could do more good if he were off the air. Now that they're being cleaned out of PBS/CPB, I have hope that he'll want to get back in the game again.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:12 PM
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15. He was replaced with another extreme right winger though
:shrug:
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:38 PM
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17. Has he been replaced?
but I don't think there's been a replacement named for Tomlinson but he did appoint a former RNC head (woman named Patricia something) to a high position. Maybe he's head of CPB and she's head of PBS -- or vice versa -- but I don't think they've replaced him.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:22 PM
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3. that is who the dems should have as a presidential candidate in 2008
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:24 PM
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4. Right you are! Now that is one guy I would get out and work my
fingers to the bone for!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:24 PM
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5. Three Cheers
for a real jounalist, and an honest man!
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:29 PM
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7. woohoo! Go Bill!! So now we know
the real reason why PBS was threatened.

Maybe others here knew that at the time, but it seemed like a huge mystery to me why anyone wanted to threaten Big Bird. I was thinking Sesame Street, not Bill Moyers & Now.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:47 PM
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8. He is the last stand-up guy in journalism. I can't think of another who's
not for sale (at least, another with his kind of sober credibility.)
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Poet Lariat Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:49 PM
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9. Moyers only bias is toward "right" instead of "wrong"
From the article...

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/index.asp?layout=artic...
>snip<
You are the exemplar of liberal PBS bias, according to Ken Tomlinson. Was your show liberally biased?

"Right-wing partisans like Tomlinson have always attacked aggressive reporting as liberal."

"We were biased, all right—in favor of uncovering the news that powerful people wanted to keep hidden: conflicts of interest at the Department of Interior, secret meetings between Vice President Cheney and the oil industry, backdoor shenanigans by lobbyists at the FCC, corruption in Congress, neglect of wounded veterans returning from Iraq, Pentagon cost overruns, the manipulation of intelligence leading to the invasion of Iraq.">snip<

Thanks ananda. We need lots more like Bill Moyers who will speak truth to power.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:23 PM
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19. Yr wlkm ;-))
Bill Moyers is one of my biggest heroes when it comes to speaking out honestly and humanly.. along with Dennis Kucinich.. Al Gore.. Barbara Boxer.. George Galloway.. and a few others.

I've been noticing the conservative bias of PBS for years now, so I quit donating back when they started screwing around with the schedule and buying such safe shows.

My attitude: if they need money from the government or big corporations, they're not really a free broadcast service.

I miss the days when my local PBS station wasn't so much about the big money.

AND I REALLY MISS BILL MOYERS.

Sue
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Poet Lariat Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:41 PM
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20. I had a similar experience with our local PBS station here in DFW
I contributed for years until a couple of years ago. I had been questioning some of their stands on various issues that so contradicted the PBS I had come to know and depend on. Did a little research and found out who was really running the show as of late. I couldn't believe it but it was true.

There will hopefully be more like Bill Moyers and your heroes list from above. They can't keep us quiet. They can't stop us from shouting the truth. They can't stop us from pointing out right and wrong when we see it. THEY SIMPLY CAN'T STOP US!
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:10 PM
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21. Hear, hear, Poet Lariat!
We will not be stilled.

I will remain a loud and proud liberal as long as I live.

(I was born in Dallas and grew up there. Now I'm in Houston.)
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:50 PM
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10. "Serial abusers"
Great description.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:06 PM
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11. Recommended
This says it all about the right fringe: "Tomlinson actually told The Washington Post that he was irate over one of our documentary reports from a small town in Pennsylvania hard-hit by outsourcing.

"If reporting on what's happening to ordinary people thrown overboard by circumstances beyond their control and betrayed by Washington officials is liberalism, I stand convicted."

Yes, Mr. Moyers, that IS what they consider liberal journalism, anything that confirms what ordinary folks feel in their guts, that their leaders are leading them down a path to total ruin, are only out to line their own pockets, and would destroy this country and kill everyone in it for a buck.

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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 05:09 PM
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12. The source - Turdblossom.
"The people at PBS told me they were getting excruciating pressure because of our reporting, including threats to de-fund public television unless “Moyers is dealt with.” They never identified the source of that pressure."
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:29 PM
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14. Moyers Advocates For Truly Fair And Balanced Coverage
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:24 PM
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16. Accused of liberal bias
Moyer's response -

"If reporting on what's happening to ordinary people thrown overboard by circumstances beyond their control and betrayed by Washington officials is liberalism, I stand convicted.

It is an old canard of right-wing ideologues like Tomlinson to equate tough journalism with liberalism. They hope to distract people from the message by trying to discredit the messenger."


He's so great.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:04 PM
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18. Maybe what we need is a national public broadcasting service
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:10 PM
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22. My hero! Nominated.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 08:47 AM
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23. Good stuff... n/t
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 01:30 PM
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24. I am FURIOUS every Friday when NOW signs off after 1/2 hour
This is the ONLY source on TV that is reporting on the really, really important issues - Katrina clean-up contractors running virutal prison camps of illegals, polluters, Abramoff's shenaigans, etc. etc etc. Every other station is focused on "Faith In America" or what Brad fucking Pitt is up to.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 05:57 PM
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25. For you younguns, imagine a time when MOST of American journalism
was like Bill Moyers's PBS show: informative, didn't talk down to the audience, insightful, objective, about real events and people, honest, fair, hard-hitting when it came to corruption and exploitation, and relatively free of tampering and White House-dictated "talking points." Journalism that was trying to fulfill a sacred trust, as the Fourth Estate and the guardian of our democracy from potential tyrants from within. We didn't have PBS. We had COMMERCIAL stations whose owners and journalists felt a duty to the public good!

What we have now are war profiteering corporate news monopolies and government propagandists--not just on TV but also in newsapers, and, of course, on the radio. The newspapers have been the latest to be corrupted. The NYT coverage of the leadup to the Iraq war--and 'reporter' Judith Miller's role as chief war progagandist, and her role in this junta's treason--were just immensely shocking to me. Granted, I knew their coverage of global trade issues, for instance, was slanted toward the corporate rulers, but what they did on the war was just mind-boggling. And I knew that the Washington Post sucks up to whoever's in power, and supports the military-industrial complex against the interests of the people--they've been doing that since Reagan--but Woodward, their star reporter, running around after Bush like a little lapdog, and licking his toes--and his withholding of information on Traitorgate from the prosecutor--these things were beyond the beyond. This was the man who exposed Watergate!

Novak's column being used as a conduit for treason wasn't all that surprising--an indication of the depths to which our expectations have sunk. But I just don't see the old rightwing columnists like William Buckley committing such a crime. They may have been pricks, but they weren't traitors and lapdogs.

As for AP, and what the news monopolies did together on election night, 2004--DOCTORING their exit polls (Kerry won) to FIT the results of Diebold's and ES&S's secret, proprietary programming code (Bush won), thus denying the American people major evidence of election fraud--this was the worst journalistic crime I have ever witnessed, and hardly any Americans know about it, to this day. The news monopolies--all of them--were themselves complicit in the Bush Cartel stealing a second election.

Now, rightwing investors are going after Knight-Ridder, the only remaining decent news service in the country (good investigative reporting about Iraq), and the Los Angeles Times just fired Robert Scheer (a truth-teller about Iraq).

What's left? The Lone Star Iconoclast! (Crawford, TX.) Great little paper! Real journalism, on major issues. Of course there are others--mostly independent, or allied with Knight-Ridder (f.i., the Miami Herald).

So much for the corporate news. You can't trust a word they print or broadcast any more. Not one word.

A large part of this vast and dramatic change for the worse in American journalism can be attributed to corporate influence on the "Fairness Doctrine" (they got rid of it--no more "equal time for opposing views")--the FCC and the Telecommunications Act--and the lack of political will (bought and paid for) for busting up the monopolies. There is little we can do about any of this directly until we restore our right to vote. Once our elections are transparent again, and not controlled by rightwing corporations, we can take back control of our airwaves (they are the property of the public), and outlaw monopolies and information conglomerates (one corporation owning too many newspapers, TV stations, etc., or one corporation totally controlling all news media in one city or region). Just remember, for the future: We have the right to regulate this (or any) business in the public interest! We've done it in the past. We can do it even more so in the future. And, boy, do they deserve to be busted up and denied licenses!

The Good News:

There are many positive developments--and the rebellion is gathering steam every day. As is often said in this forum, thank God for internet! Where would we be without DU and Truthout.org and Bradblog and the rest. Yeoman work! Saved the nation!

And Air America and Democracy Now--and, of course, Jon Stewart's the Daily Show--in the broadcast media.

Newspaper circulation is way down. So that "stovepipe" of corporate rule is over. People do read them on line, but once on-line, they have access to much alternative information and opinion. If corporate forces them to register, they can go elsewhere--and many do. They are not locked into the narrow corporate presentation. If they don't trust what the NYT says about Hugo Chavez, they can immediately google him and find out the truth.

And there is Google itself--an excellent on-line news service, which draws from all kinds of newspapers all over the world. It's fun to visit! And Google's googling service has, of course, transformed news and information. In one search, you can find everything relevant to Huge Chavez printed everywhere in the world, including in Spanish--and German, and French, and Chinese (with translation services provided by Google!). (Bless that company!)

The times they are a-changing! It's true! Good-bye corporate news monopolies! Hello, democracy!

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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 04:50 PM
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26. I shall have to past this on to friends and fellow Democrats. n/t
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 11:33 PM
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27. Kick... n/t
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