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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:01 AM
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Is Bob Beckel's new campaign to out Repugs Going to Backfire on Us?
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 09:05 AM by KoKo01
Reading Buzzflash's interview with him I started to wonder what could he be thinking in try to out Repugs in the coming election year! I remember that I used to respect Beckel, he was Mondale's Campaign Manager, an exellent commentator for the Left on Crossfire and other "pudit shows" for years, and tried to help out Gore during the Florida fiasco by getting "Electors" to turn and vote for Gore after the count went in favor of Bush.

http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/03/10/int03161.html


BUT.....I seemed to remember some scandal about him somewhere. So, doing a Google, here's the scandal. And, even though it comes from "World Net Daily," it seems to have been true.

Is this the kind of person we want working for us in the next year? Doesn't his own scandal negate any scandals he might bring to light about the RW Repugs? Can you imagine Faux or any other Cable Show listening to him when he has so much baggage of his own? Why would he do this? Ego?

Anyway here's the unfortunate news about him. Not a nice read.
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"Democratic political guru in sex
extortion
Bob Beckel removed from Senate
campaign after scandal surfaces"

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28824
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:09 AM
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1. That should make him a Right Wing Hero
By the new standards of the Right Wing, the more degenerate you are, the more credible you are, a'la, Rush, Bill Bennett, Arnold, Newt, Dick Morris...etc.

So by their own twisted logic, that episode should make Beckel the epitome of virtue.

Okay, but seriously, it's too bad Beckel got caught up in that. But at least he has the nerve not to hide after that.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:11 AM
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2. I refuse to go to Worldnetdaily
but when you say "out" what do you mean? All I could see from the interview was that he's going to expose the right in things like tax payments, arrests etc.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:42 AM
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5. Tax payments and arrests. When he goes on Faux and reports this, they hit
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 10:13 AM by KoKo01
him back with: "So, Bob, you're making a career out of exposing honest Repugs when you yourself were like Clinton. Only you paid for your blow jobs and Clinton got it for free!" That's what they would say to him. And the audience laughs and says: "Yeah, scum Dems trying to out Repugs, and they're just left wing scum themselves."

Do you see how the dialog then goes back to Beckel and he becomes the enemy....Not, what he is trying to expose?

We don't need this. It just reduces the dialogue more to the Coulter type stuff of accusations and finger pointing. I'm sorry Beckels going to do this. Someone needs to do it! But, he will just be trashed because of his own problems. :-(
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:27 AM
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14. You're probably right Koko, but he should still out them, he just
should get a "pure" messenger to feed the info to, and have that person be the face of the outrage.

Soft spoken, meek Terry Gross comes to mind.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:14 AM
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3. I don't understand -- why kick him when he's down?
If he acutally was in some sort of scandal, I forgive him.

The man is, after all, human.

There's just too much hypocrisy in the current political climate.

Too damn much.

For every Bob Beckel scandal, how many Republican scandals are there?

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:44 AM
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6. Cat, this is a really bad scandal. Read the article. Even if it's from
World Net. It's disgusting. And he admitted to it.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:51 AM
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7. Koko it was actually pretty tame
He hired a prostitute. The scandal was the extortion that was done to him.

If every guy in Washington who did that was "outed" it'd be a pretty empty city, I'd imagine.

I think, if he's willing to continue and fight after that, it only means he will be tougher and more immune to smears.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:54 AM
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8. And Bob is one tough dude
that's why I admire him so.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:40 AM
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4. I Say, "Full Steam Ahead"
After reading the Buzzflash interview, go get'um, Bob. The wingnuts have their DRUDGE, ROVE, and the rest of their attack machine institutionally enscounced, like, they're even BEYOND being questioned anymore. I used to wince in seeing some of our old attack dogs like Bob SHRUM yelling on the cool medium, overpowering with their volume, but ---------let's GO. As for BECHEL's past problem--------as Orrin HATCH always sez, "That's HISTORY. Let's look to the FUTURE. No fingerpointing." MORRIS, Bill BENNETT, and LIMBOsevic say that or will be soon, so what the hey.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:03 AM
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9. and man the torpedoes.
eom.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:15 AM
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10. Nope. It will come back to bite us. He will be the focus and not whom he
outs. It will all be turned around in the spin.
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MarkTwain Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:25 AM
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11. Much Ado About...
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 10:26 AM by MarkTwain
.... Nothing.

The story is not the blow jobs. (Hello? See who's Governor-elect of California today?) It's not the prostitution.

It's the extortion - to which he responded appropriately and legally - that is the subject here and will be recognized as such by all except those in the fundie wingnut camp who are lost already (in more ways than one).

Like a pit bull Bob was chewing on the heels of those who threatened him and it was they who wound up in custody - not him.

There's no story here. Bob's goin' do just fine, thank you. I only wish we had about three dozen more like him - blow jobs or not.

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:55 AM
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12. Well said, Mark Twain
this is WAR!!!!

And we need more soldiers like Bob -- regardless of their "baggage".

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swinney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:26 AM
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13. Bob Beckel is tough. Smart.
I have followed his career for years. He is good.

So, he got a BJ? Big deal
How many in House of Reps have gotten them fronm Aides?

Read the book FISHBAIT.

Fishbait Miller was Keeper of the House. He exposed many Representatives.

Anyone recall Bob Livingston. How many BJ did he get from several attractive aides?

Anyone recall Newt Gingrich? How many BJ did he get from aides?
He got them from wives of Campaign workers. They admitted it.

Recall Dick Morris?

Recall Bob Packwood?

Recall Tim Hutchinson?

Recall Helen Chenoweth?

Recall Henry Hyde?

Recall Bob Barr?

SCANDALS IN POLITICAL HISTORY. DEMOCRATS ARE ANGELS COMPARED TO LONG LIST OF REPUBLICANS EVILS.

IN FACT, EVERY MAJOR PRESIDENTIAL SCANDAL IN 20TH WAS ON REPUBLICAN EXCEPT 10 BJS. ALL.
cwswinney@netzero.net
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:32 AM
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15. Don't Forget Asa HUTCHINSON with Laura INGRAHAM n/t
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