John McCain: "Torture Worked On Me"

I kid you not, this is the title of an article on Newsmax to try and justify our use of torture in Iraq. Get a load of this:

Sen. John McCain is leading the charge against so-called "torture" techniques allegedly used by U.S. interrogators, insisting that practices like sleep deprivation and withholding medical attention are not only brutal - they simply don't work to persuade terrorist suspects to give accurate information.

Nearly forty years ago, however - when McCain was held captive in a North Vietnamese prison camp - some of the same techniques were used on him. And - as McCain has publicly admitted at least twice - the torture worked!

Did you notice Newsmax forgot to mention some of the other torture techniques we're using in Iraq? I won't go into detail since we've all seen the pictures and heard Seymour Hersch describe the video of a shrieking Iraqi boy being sodomized.

But look at the information the Vietnamese were able to get from McCain:

The punishment finally worked, McCain said. "Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."

Recalling how he gave up military information to his interrogators, McCain said: "I regret very much having done so. The information was of no real use to the Vietnamese, but the Code of Conduct for American Prisoners of War orders us to refrain from providing any information beyond our names, rank and serial number."

McCain gave them useless information. Doesn't that prove the torture DIDN'T work?

It gets better:

He described the day Hanoi Hilton guards beat him "from pillar to post, kicking and laughing and scratching. After a few hours of that, ropes were put on me and I sat that night bound with ropes."
"For the next four days, I was beaten every two to three hours by different guards . . . Finally, I reached the lowest point of my 5 1/2 years in North Vietnam. I was at the point of suicide, because I saw that I was reaching the end of my rope."

McCain was taken to an interrogation room and ordered to sign a document confessing to war crimes. "I signed it," he recalled. "It was in their language, and spoke about black crimes, and other generalities."

This proves what we've been saying all along...if you're tortured, you reach a breaking point and are willing to say anything your torturers want to hear. Yet Newsmax would have you believe the info McCain gave up was helpful to North Vietnam's national security. What a load of crapolla.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/29/100012.shtml

load of crapolla...

for obvious reasons.

News Max thinking is rather limited.

No they generally gave info that they knew the enemy already had I think. I'm trying to remember McCain's exact quote. I doubt he said what they say he said. They twisted it.

"Faith of My Fathers" and also from an interview he gave US News & World Report.

Or For it before he was Against it? I'm confused. :shrug:

The thrust of the Newsmax story is that McCain admitted that torture works to procure information. That's the drift that Newsmax is attempting. However, somewhat hidden in the story is that McCain's divulged information procured from Vietnamese torture was useless information.

Over the years, McCain has often admitted, openly, that information procured through torture is unreliable, untrustworthy, and is stated merely to stop the torture. And McCain has cited himself as a first-hand experienced example.

The Newsmax story is b.s. Lousy "journalism" and hardly worth the internet digits it consumes.
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:puke:

We're truly in them. The right just keeps sinking lower and lower.

They're turning a soldier's torture against him. Incomprehensible torture. They're using McCain's own agony to degrade him and justify more torture.

These people have gone way beyond Orwell. I have no frame of reference for this.

He was also very badly hurt.Both by his plane being shot down and by the guards.

Just goes to show a rational man is not necessarily a moral man...or a Christian.

He's basically a profiteering ex-CEO, who peddled Aspartame in the past, and befriended and supported tyrant Saddam Hussein with weapons during Reagan years...and now is being http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5480472">tutored on torture and military protocol by none less than General Peter Pace, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, at a Pentagon news conference Tuesday...even as the campaign to "battle" Bird Flu ramps up (similar to how Cheney initiated the campaign for Iraq War...with lies and fear, leading to commitment of Americans to die...for Iraqi Freedom?...or for the future division of Iraqi oil fields for Exxon Mobil Corp, Chevron, Conoco, Shell Oil Co. and BP America Inc)??