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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:11 AM
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Letters to "Stars and Stripes"; early rebuttal to Bush's "chat" w/USNA
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 03:25 AM by lebkuchen
MSNBC is touting Bush's upcoming promotion of the US invasion of Iraq, a speech to be given before the US Naval Academy today. (Mr. Bush, try presenting your speech before 1AD families in Baumholder, Germany, a division that is on its second tour of Iraq). MSNBC's headline reads "Bush to lay out Iraq victory strategy." Bush is quoted as saying "I don't want them to come home without having achieved victory."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10253079/

In fact, the August 31, 2004 headline in Stars and Stripes read:

BUSH: TERROR WAR MUST BE FOUGHT EVEN IF UNWINNABLE
(Deb Riechmann, AP)

No need to ask why reenlistment/recruitment rates are at an all-time low. The following "Stars and Stripes" letters provide the best rebuttal to Bush's latest policy contradiction:

Letters to Stars and Stripes

War based on a lie/Less is better in Iraq/Guard faces extra problems—Nov. 28, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=33305

Chew on this awhile—Nov. 27, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=33286

DOD personnel system unjust/Troops need Sec. Harvey’s help—Nov. 25, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=33244

Defending the war?—Nov. 24, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=33207

Shame on Army Secretary—Nov. 23, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=33194

U.S. shouldn’t fund chaplains—Nov. 14, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=32999

Army Sec's rationale incomplete/When will the war end?—Nov. 11, 2005
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=32946

Deployments are too long—Nov. 4, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=32359&archive=true

No vicious language, labels/Making room for opinions—Nov. 2, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=32315&archive=true

Soldiers’ moms not stooges/Give him a ‘ditto head’—Oct. 27, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=32565

‘Reality’ requires truth/Another Jane needed/‘What’s the real issue?’—Oct. 26, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=32520

What Would Jesus Do about Jane Fonda's actions?—Oct. 13, 2005
http://stripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=32175

In the beginning .../ ... there was no ‘under God’/Practice religion ... or not/Keep God to yourself—Oct. 10, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=32130

‘We deserve answers’—Oct. 8, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=32081

Guard leaders fall short/Maintenance center lost—Oct. 5, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=32001

Posse Comitatus & the NG/Give soldiers leave time—Oct. 4, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31985

Cost of Living Allowance drop an "atrocity" for troops—Oct. 2, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31948

Cheering for Sheehan—Oct. 1, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31914

Dangerous security teams in Iraq (mercs)—Sept. 30, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31913

Missiles vs. storm relief—Sept. 29, 2005
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31883

Military has it backward—Sept. 28, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31860

Buried treasure?—Sept. 26, 2005
http://army.laser.net/article.asp?section=125&article=31223&archive=true

Such a waste downrange—Sept. 25, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31815

Anti-war, pro-troops/A ‘red herring’ column/ For equal-opportunity religion—Sept. 23, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31374&archive=true

‘Must-read’ writer a patriot—Sept. 22, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31344&archive=true

Asking too much of soldiers?/Count your blessings/TX Governor should visit troops/(PNAC) Document is a must-read—Sept. 20, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31310&archive=true

Retention, pay, policies/Robertson and double standards—Sept. 19, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31284&archive=true

German aid for United States—Sept. 18, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31253&archive=true

‘Shame’ for Katrina response/ ‘What went wrong’?—Sept. 15, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31188&archive=true

(Pat) Robertson ‘a real danger’—Sept. 14, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31142&archive=true

Katrina another Bush failure—Sept. 13, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31168&archive=true

Iraq isn’t ‘fantastic’/ Appalled at colonel’s comments/ ‘Fantastic’ isn’t the word—Sept. 10, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31139&archive=true

"It's OK to criticize Bush"—Sept. 8, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31137&archive=true

Sheehan deserves meeting/ War diverts needed funds—Sept. 5, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31134&archive=true

Getting help from KBR—Sept. 4, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31133&archive=true

KBR won’t repair equipment—Aug. 29, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31033&archive=true

Grim reminder of the future –Aug. 28, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=31014&archive=true

GIs don’t need civilians—Aug. 27, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=30994&archive=true

Bush should see Sheehan—Aug. 26, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=30993&archive=true

Leaders have failed troops/Keep America out of the muck/ Protest at funeral shameless—Aug. 16, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=30750&archive=true

U.S. should leave Iraq—Aug. 15, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=30732&archive=true

Emergency leave denied—Aug. 14, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=30703&archive=true

‘A crock of nonsense’—Aug. 9, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=30620&archive=true

Sheen has shown his support—Aug. 7, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=30590&archive=true

Bring the troops home—Aug. 5, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=30570&archive=true

Marine didn’t see big picture/ ‘Military Fear Factor’ insulting—Aug. 4, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=30526&archive=true

Change spouse protection act/ Fear and loathing in Doha/To officers: Listen to NCOs—July 30, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=30412&archive=true

Nothing wrong with T-shirt/ Another offensive T-shirt?/ It’s just a T-shirt—July 21, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=30228&archive=true

Bush must fire Rove—July 20, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=30219&archive=true

A liberal ‘apologizes’—July 18, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=30179&archive=true

Stop assault on non-Christians/Disappointing pair/ Whose steaks were they?——July 11, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=30021&archive=true

Differences not anti-American—June 24, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=29704&archive=true

DFACs are for dining/Weak leaders are the problem—June 23, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=29674&archive=true

Iraqis must fight for freedom—June 22, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=29665&archive=true

Wrong response to speech—June 21, 2005
http://stripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=29647&archive=true

Lack of cultural training—June 18, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=29575&archive=true

Bring back higher standards—June 17, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=29554&archive=true

Simply too much time apart—June 16, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=29544&archive=true

Fewer visits, more help—June 6, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=29335&archive=true

Americans shoulder blame—May 25, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=29104&archive=true

A repeat of Vietnam—May 22, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=29058&archive=true

Civilians should wear civvies—May 12, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=28831&archive=true

Myth of the ‘liberal media’/ Voters got what they asked for—May 7, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=28744&archive=true

Show was ‘charade,’ ‘phony’—May 5, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=28689&archive=true

‘Sandbagging’ young recruits?—Apr. 4, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=28017&archive=true

A promise is a promise?—Mar. 30, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=27920&archive=true

What happened to honor?—Mar. 23, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=27772&archive=true

AFN needs diverse opinions—Mar. 21, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=27724&archive=true

Mattis comments no surprise—Feb. 9, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=27724&archive=true

Lawsuit addresses higher-ups—Jan. 27, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=26519&archive=true

Gonzales not right fit for Gis—Jan. 25, 2005
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=26475&archive=true

Don’t give him any medals—Dec. 23, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=25762&archive=true

Fight for America goes on—Nov. 8, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24974&archive=true

Soldiers did the right thing/No valid reason for war—Oct. 23, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=25065

Stop-Loss policy unfair—Oct. 21, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=25010

An “important” project?—Oct. 20, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=25009

A vote for Kerry—Oct. 16, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24921

Draft more fair than stop-loss—Oct. 11, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24832

Undeserving commander—Oct. 8, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24789

Send reservists home first—Oct. 6, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24747

No to civilianizing hospitals—Oct. 5, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24725

Retirement for reservists/Googler makes discovery/Check facts on Kerry—Oct. 3, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24704

Ugly American Returns/Germans support Americans/Free to speak foolishly—Sept. 30, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24661

Questions on prostitution rule--Sept. 29, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24613

Make deployments equal—Sept. 28, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24612

Bush to blame?—Sept. 27, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24600

Army’s redheaded stepchild—Sept. 26, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24584

Broadcast was offensive—Sept. 25, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24566

Halliburton and profits—Sept. 23, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24531

Deployment doubly difficult—Sept. 17, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24421

Toe the line or else—Sept. 11, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24320

Strong leadership?—Sept. 6, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24226

AAFES censorship (of F 9-11)—Aug. 29, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24087

Bush’s behavior on 9/11—Aug. 27, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=24055


The letters below ("What protection?" and "Response to Rumsfeld") are in response to a letter Rummy wrote to the troops and had published in "Stripes" on or around June 26, 2004. Rummy’s letter is here:

US TROOPS' SKILL EMANCIPATED IRAQ
(Stripes did not provide an URL)

To the troops:

More than 15 months ago, a global coalition ended the brutal regime of Saddam Hussein and liberated the people of Iraq.

As in all conflicts, this has come at a cost in lives. Some of your comrades made the ultimate sacrifice. For your sacrifices, our country and the president are deeply grateful.

In a free, democratic country we have vigorous debates over important public policy issues--none more heated than a decision to go to war. But this should not distract us from the mission at hand or lessen the magnitude of your accomplishments.

The threat we face must be confronted. And you are doing so exceedingly well. Indeed it has been a historic demonstration of skill and military power.

On Sept. 11, 2002, 3,000 citizens were killed by extremists determined to frighten and intimidate our people and civilized societies. The future danger is that, if the extremists gain the potential, the number of casualties would be far higher. Terrorists are continuing to plot attacks against the American people and against other civilized societies. This is a different kind of enemy and a different kind of world. And we must think and act differently in this new century.

These extremists think nothing of cutting off innocent people's heads to try to intimidate great nations. They have murdered citizens from many countries--South Korea, Japan, Spain, the United Kingdom and others--hoping to strike fear in the hearts of free people.

Theirs is an ideology of oppression and subjugation of women. They seek to create radical systems that impose their views on others. And they will accept no armistice with those who choose free systems.

They see the governments of the Middle East, the United States and our stalwart allies as targets.

Consider the background. In the span of 20 years, Saddam's Iraq invaded two neighbors, Iran and Kuwait, and launched ballistic missiles at two more. He employed poison gas against soldiers in Iran and against kurdish villages in his own country.

The United Nations and the U.S. Congress shared the view that Saddam's regime was a threat to the region and the world. Indeed, in 1998, our Congress passed a resolution calling for the removal of the regime. And over the years the U.N. passed 17 resolutions condeming Saddam's regime and calling on him to tell the U.N. about his weapions programs. He ignored every one.

Information gathered since the defeat of Saddam's regime last year confirms that his last declaration to the United Nations about his weapons programs was falsified. The U.N. resolutions had called for "serious consequences" should Saddam not comply. He did not.

The president issued a final ultimatum to Saddam to reliquish power to avoid war. Saddam chose war instead.

By your skill and courage, you have put a brutal dictator in the dock to be tried by the Iraqi people and restored freedom to 25 million people. By helping to repair infrastructure, rebuild schools, encourage democratic institutions and deliver educational and medical supplies, you have shown America's true character and given Iraq a chance at a new start.

But most importantly, your fight--and ultimate victory--against the forces of terror and extremism in Iraq and the Middle East will have made America safer and more secure.

You are accomplishing something noble and historic--and future generations of Americans will remember and thank you for it.

Response to Rumsfeld—Aug. 20, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=23942

Too much Fox? You decide; Civilian leadership failed the troops—Aug 18, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=23897

Too much FOX news—Aug. 6, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=23371&archive=true

Don’t follow leaders blindly; Kerry’s war actions—Aug. 5, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=23370&archive=true

What protection?—Aug. 2, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=23299&archive=true

Letter was chilling; Christ’s words lost—July 30, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=23296&archive=true

Bush leadership weak—July 29, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=23295&archive=true

Don’t blame Clinton—July 27, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=23293&archive=true

Bush vs. military standards; Gay marriage—get over it—July 24, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=23290&archive=true

Conservatives are like sheep—July 15, 2004
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=22980&archive=true

Bush actions parallel enemies—June 30, 2004
http://www.stripesonline.com/article.asp?section=125&article=22650&archive=true

Conservatives feel betrayed—June 26, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=22515&archive=true

Can FOX News be trusted?—June 18, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=22420&archive=true

Impeach Bush—June 11, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=22413&archive=true

Troops not forgotten—June 7, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=22240&archive=true

Lies and failures—May 23, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=22017&archive=true

‘Year in hell’ long enough; Treat GIs like heroes—May 20, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=22003&archive=true

Rumsfeld should resign—May 11, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=21889&archive=true

Iraq resembles Vietnam; Distortion and deception; Abuse of prisoners—May 9, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=21779&archive=true

Bush fought pay restoration—May 3, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=21768&archive=true

We need them back; Get out and vote; Enough is Enough—April 18, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=21380&archive=true

Thanks, Secretary Rumsfeld; Supports troops, not mission; Let them come home—April 13, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=21375&archive=true

Dr. Laura and the Military—March 26, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=20988&archive=true

A little selective amnesia; Spend more for protection—March 25, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=20987&archive=true

Must demand better—March 7, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=20639&archive=true

Canceled R and R; Vietnam, Iraq similar—Feb. 8, 2004
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=20107&archive=true

Medical Data/ Criticism familiar, still unfair--Dec. 20, 2003
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=19127&archive=true

Bush visit disrupted dining--Dec. 5, 2003
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=18886&archive=true

Kindergarten aides/Indians betrayed even today—Dec. 2, 2003
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=18882&archive=true

Real national tragedy—Dec. 1, 2003
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=18794&archive=true

Will be glad to leave Army; Conditions deplete Guard—Nov. 30, 2003
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=18800&archive=true

Take Limbaugh off AFN; Mission real national tragedy—Nov. 28, 2003
http://www.stripesonline.com/article.asp?section=125&article=18798&archive=true

Will Limbaugh change?; Remove Limbaugh show—Nov. 27, 2003
http://www.stripesonline.com/article.asp?section=125&article=18797&archive=true

‘Hero’ image a myth--Nov. 19, 2003
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=18614&archive=true

Money can't fix Iraq--Nov. 16, 2003
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=18548&archive=true

Thanksgiving visit--Nov. 7, 2003
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=18888&archive=true

Part-timers' busy/Reserve your criticism/Not getting paid/Not complaining/Retention/We’re prisoners--Aug. 31 – Sept. 6, 2003
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=17663&archive=true

Bush not in Iraq--July 13, 2003
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=17296&archive=true

Tired combat veterans/Jump through multiple hoops/Petty rules lower morale/ Separation anxiety justified/ Transformation plan/ 1st BCT has done its part/deployments -- June 29 – July 5, 2003
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=125&article=17294&archive=true




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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:17 AM
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1. Thank you for putting together this list.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 05:56 AM
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2. That is SOME LIST!
Those soldiers said a mouthful!!!
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:32 AM
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12. An incredible list
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 06:08 AM
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3. the ultimate irony
all bush has left is his captive military audiences for speeches. And they hate him!
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 06:32 AM
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4. It really hurts me, because before troops were sent to IRAQ...
I had contact with many of the units such as in, Baumholder, Hanau, Mannheim, etc. I remember so many of the faces of 18 and 19 year kids assigned to combat units, just after they were given their orders to prepare to deploy to Iraq. Sweet faces, men and women who had no other choices.

At the time I was concentrated on having them know the difference between an u umlaut and an u. Pretty trivial it seems now.

What could I do? Get arrested and lose my job, by encouraging these soldiers to refuse to pack out?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 06:33 AM
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5. This fellow was on his THIRD tour in Iraq....
RIP.... :(



Army Sgt. 1st Class Lonnie J. Parson, shown in this undated family photo, was killed Sept. 2 in Baghdad when his tank was struck by an explosive. Parson, 39, had served in the military for 18 years and was on his third tour in Iraq. (AP Photo/Family Photo via The Mobile Register)
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 07:22 AM
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6. Keepin' it
:kick: ed.
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 08:17 AM
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7. 1 more recommend pretty please... Great Job, Lebkuchen!
It is an excellent collection of letters and I am so glad you reposted it as its own thread.
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 08:42 AM
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8. Well deserved kick and nomination!
Great work lebkuchen!
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 08:51 AM
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9. Recommended, thank you!
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 08:52 AM
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10. That is quite a list.....
and encouraging to know our troops are thinking for themselves. Thanks for compiling it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 08:55 AM
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11. Thanks SO MUCH for this compilation! Bookmarked for
those bushbots who dare mention how supportive the soldiers are...
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 11:17 AM
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13. Kick!
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 01:17 PM
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14. The list is daunting, but if you're feeling politically blue.....
I suggest you get yourself a cup of tea and plate of cookies and start from the top, for a new attitude . :)
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:08 PM
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15. WOW!
Great job I'll bookmark and read as I get time. Nice work!
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