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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:28 AM
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Americans were suckered...
but they were willing suckers.

The new Repub (and Dem fellow-travelers) meme.... "Let's not look back at why we got into the war, let's just look ahead."

No... let's look back! If this is an immoral, illegal war, how can we "support the troops." Let's examine why so many Americans believed Bush's bullshit.

Great Op-Ed piece ...
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Only now does fog of war lift

By Danny Westneat Seattle Times staff columnist http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002654832_danny30.html

As much as I admire Congressman Norm Dicks for confessing last week that he blew it in backing the Iraq war, something was missing.

Dicks said the White House fed him "doctored" intelligence to whip up support for the war. Had he known it was more hype than substance, he never would have backed the 2003 invasion, he said. Fair enough. There's no question the Iraq threat was oversold.

But missing from Dicks' self-analysis was this: Why did he buy this war for so long? It applies to the rest of us. Why are so many people only now questioning why we invaded a country nearly three years ago?

Yes, we were deceived. But more troubling, to me, is how willing we were to be deceived. A million may have protested, but a hundred million swallowed it whole. And you can't just blame Bush. The evidence on Iraq was right there, but, like Dicks, a majority of us opted to ignore it.

But we should also keep questioning, over and over, how in the world we got in. It might be the only guard we have against going quite so nuts the next time.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:34 AM
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1. They're all saying this now...
"We wuz duped!!!"

Because you didn't care enough to look into the info first, now that the occupation is going very badly, they are having second thoughts.

Fricking weesels. Thanks for the change of heart, but no thanks.
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Neocondriac Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:38 AM
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2. We tend to forget....
the general sentiment and real fear that existed in this country from 9/01 to late 02. The table was set for that hollow patriotic mantra of "you're either with us or against us". If we ever hear that again REBEL!!!!!!....IT'S ALL SHIT!
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:05 AM
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7. Many of us---
At least those of us who have studied some history were not taken in by the "you're either for us or you're against us" routine.

Lesson # 1 --- don't be taken in by snake oil salesmen and people who wear their religion as a proclamation of righteousness.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:40 AM
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3. Only the truly lame were duped, and no shortage of them here in the USA
What did you think would happen after 12/12/2000?
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:43 AM
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4. Really, after all we liberals
knew that Iraq was BS from day one. Who else remembers jr coming out making the same claims daddy Bush used for the gulf war? I found it really funny how daddy Bush scared the freeper nation by telling them Saddam was sending scuds into their back yards. 10 years later, heres jr saying the same thing, Saddams going to attack america with scuds and they'll have nukes and bio weapons, but where did Saddam get these weapons? We spent those 10 years bombing Saddam every time he rattled his sword. Secret weapons sites? Come on, we have spy ware in space that can give you a close up of a pimple on J-lo's ass. So how could a third world country manage to hide or keep anything secret? Stupid sheep will follow the leader right off the cliff every time.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:43 AM
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5. Most DUers were among the millions who protested
:hi:
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:49 AM
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6. Anyone know what Danny Westneat said about the war during the march
to it? The Times, as I recall, at lest alllowed some dissent. I'd hope Danny had something to say that echos his current piece. I still find it odd that here at DU and other progressive sites we know it the drum beats were false - yet the media and "experts", with all their resources were so mislead. :wtf:
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