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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:01 PM
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PROOF Bush's PR Stunt Failed!!!
Just checked the TV cable "news" stations. MSNBC and CNN were running commercials so I did a quick check on Faux.

Who do I see? Jerry Falwell!!! He's on promoting his fatwa 'War on Christmas'. He's telling everyone they'll have FREE legal assistance if they file suit against stores, advertisers, etc. All they have to do is challenge them on taking "Christmas" out of their sales promotions and in-store display!

Bush who? :shrug:
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:05 PM
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1. FOX News = The 700 Club
FOX Church surely qualifies as a tax-exempt non profit. How can they occasionally talk politics without gettin' sued?
:D
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:06 PM
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2. hmmmm... so Jerry Falwell dictates ad campaigns for ALL retail outlets
yeah, that's going to go over big... not! :dunce:

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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:06 PM
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3. I noticed this too, had headline news on and they didn't even pre-empt
a commercial, they come on saying "the presidents speach is already under way....":rofl:
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:08 PM
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4. Bush--our gift to Al Quida.
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:11 PM
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5. On what legal grounds?
"He's on promoting his fatwa 'War on Christmas'. He's telling everyone they'll have FREE legal assistance if they file suit against stores, advertisers, etc. All they have to do is challenge them on taking "Christmas" out of their sales promotions and in-store display!"

Last I checked businesses pretty much can include or exclude anything they want in sales promotions and in-store displays. It's funny how they rail about private property rights until someone exercises their right to promote a secular environment, and "restrict" gun rights on their private property.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:58 PM
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10. For "misrepresenting how Christmas can be celebrated...
in schools and public spaces." He's coined it the "Friend or Foe Christmas". :eyes:

Here's an editorial on it:
http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=96139&ran=233887

From the brief five or ten seconds of watching Faux, he said they've "threatened" some forty places and all of them backed down (in other words, gave in) so they haven't been forced to file suit.
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 01:15 PM
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17. "Holiday fruitcake"
An appropriate analogy for Rev. Falwell.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:12 PM
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6. Someone Break the News...
...to Jumpin Jack Jerry that Christmas was "appropriated" from the pagan rites. Even the Christmas Tree "Tannenbaum" is associated with paganism.

But then, we wouldn't want to pee on his tree.

Look over here...the gay, tree-hugging, merlot sipping liberals are stealing Christmas.
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Agnomen Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:16 PM
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7. Just when I think Fallwell can't get any dumber
he surprises me!
How on earth a legal suit like that, against a privately owned businesses, hold up in court?????
Falwell plumbs new depths of insanity.

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 01:05 PM
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13. Yes, he does. And then noone stands up to him like they should!
Here's another editorial/opinion article on his antics. By threating Menino, and now Menino backing down, Falwell's bragging about how all powerful he is.
http://www2.townonline.com/newton/opinion/view.bg?articleid=378660
<snip>
Pity the poor people who write the invitations for the December parties and concerts and programs. Consider the aide who wrote the blurb on Boston's City Hall Web site. He made the innocent decision to call the evergreen at the center of a municipal celebration a "holiday tree" instead of a "Christmas tree," only to face a repudiation by Mayor Tom Menino and the threat of a lawsuit.

The legal threat came from the Rev. Jerry Falwell and a group called Liberty Counsel, which by Thanksgiving was gloating on its Web site about making Menino back down.

After years of skirmishes over creche scenes and holiday greetings, Falwell and friends have decided to take the offensive. No longer content to defend the right to hang a wreath on the town hall door, they demand that wreath be infused with the Christian symbolism of its origin.
<snip>

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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:33 PM
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8. The War on the war on the war on the war on
Xmas is pretty stupid to begin with, but if Falwell's out there soliciting for plaintiffs, someone needs to file a bar complaint with the state of Virginia, or wherever it was that he made the solicitation.

Unauthorized practice of law is pretty serious business, and so is the solicitation of plaintiffs.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:56 PM
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9. They argue for tort reform, then misuse the legal system like this.
This is nothing but a bunch of nuisance suits to get the businesses to fold. I hope some of these people stand up against them, and then file for prevailing party fees, to put the hurt on these people.

There are NO legal grounds for any of this. I think the fact that they are going to tie up the courts on this needs to be brought out aggressively, to show their hypocrisy.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:59 PM
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11. So far, they're all backing down and giving in
At least according to him. He said there's have been around 40 that they've "threatened" (his words, not mine).
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 01:02 PM
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12. Your point is that there is nothing to report for bush*..
...so they changed the topic to typical RW fare. Something they already had in the can. (?)
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 01:06 PM
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14. That's what it seems to be anyway
We'll see how the evening cycle goes, but so far... :thumbsdown:
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 01:13 PM
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15. Changing the signage is cheaper than going to court. And I
would guess it makes no real difference to the stores. I don't know about the majority of people, but all the signs and so forth are just "background noise" to me. Couldn't tell you what any of them say. I'm too busy trying to keep up with the crass commercialism of the season.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 01:15 PM
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16. Last year too they were spreading rumours at Christmas. Seems
nothing is sacred.

Why would deeply religious people keep voting for people who continually pretend that their important holiday is being attacked. Nobody wants to see Christmas go - as a celebration of a man like Jesus. He was a good egg.
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