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elmerdem Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:08 PM
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my response to Hillary's email
maybe I'm wrong, but I find Hillary's position on Iraqi hollow.

Here's my response to the email Hillary (via Ann Lewis) sent last night.



I would like to point out my concerns with Hillary’s positions. I think that these concerns are shared by a number of others.

The overall tone of all of this is political. Hillary is trying to justify her mistake in voting for the President’s authority to use force. I’m glad that she takes responsibility for her vote (not many people in Washington are taking responsibility for their actions these days). One concern is the patronizing tone of standing on previous statements about this war. I really could care less what Mrs. Clinton said in 2003. The reiteration of her criticisms is lost on me. It seems everyone in Washington is avoiding the truth. She proposes that if the elections go well we will be able to start bringing some troops home. It seems as if she buys into the idea that “as they stand up, we’ll stand down”. I’m only an American of average intelligence, but I do recognize the possibility or likelihood that Iraqis may never be able to fully “stand up”. Do you understand that US casualties are constantly going up? Do you see that this is with the help of the newly trained Iraqis which are supposedly increasing daily? My point is that with every passing day more trained Iraqis are fighting with US troops, but we are less successful. Terrorism flourishes with war. The more aggression, the more terrorist recruiting goes up. It is truly a no win situation. It is repulsive to listen to this President say until we “win, defeating the terrorists”. We will never defeat terrorism, ever! Our best hope is to protect ourselves from it, which we have put off doing to fight this misguided war. Do you believe the number of terrorists has gone up or down since the Iraq occupation? We must protect ourselves & many Americans such as myself hold all politicians accountable as long as they follow the disingenuous philosophy that the US military or at some point in the future the Iraqi forces can defeat terrorism. Terrorism is here to stay. I wish that you folks in Washington would recognize this & make some effort to protect this country as opposed to playing political tennis to defend why we are in this dead end position in the first place. Please ask Senator Clinton to forget about what she said two years ago and ask her to come up with something proactive to make the future somehow better for this country.

Thank you for your consideration.

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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:13 PM
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1. Thumbs up for the polite tone
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 03:13 PM by WildEyedLiberal
Your mail will be taken far more seriously than a profanity-laden invective. :thumbsup: Also, welcome to DU!
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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:16 PM
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2. Well put, -- "proactive" is the word! take a stand instead of continually
defining ourselves in terms of what we're NOT.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:16 PM
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3. Yes, you showed great restraint. n/t
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:17 PM
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4. Beautiful response!
She's my Senator and I'm not very pleased with her at all.
The idea that you can "defeat" terrorism is just so much adolescent posturing.
It's akin to saying we can wipe out every rat and cockroach, if we "stay the course".
:patriot:
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:28 PM
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6. The odds are against us
There are about 1 billion Muslims. If one tenth of one percent is a nut case, you will never eliminate them all.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:52 PM
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9. and who is to say that all terrorists are or will be Muslim?
The increased terrorism I believe makes all groups that are frustrated look at the terrorism option as now viable. Let us remember people like that "right to lifer" Rudolph who bombed clinics because of his so-called "Christian" beliefs.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:22 PM
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5. I use to work for a man who said
I would rather make a mistake and apologize later than sit on my duff and do nothing. I still think that many people were misled. Time will tell who is telling the truth and who is lying.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:33 PM
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7. "Taking responsibility" for one's vote means something, or at
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 03:34 PM by Benhurst
least used to before Tony Blair and "New" Labour, in parliamentary forms of government.

Of course Ms. Clinton takes responsibility for her vote, unless of course an impostor took her place on the Senate floor and her vote was recorded incorrectly.

If she is going to resort to parliamentary rhetoric, she should follow the traditional form, which is: "I accept responsibility AND I RESIGN."

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:50 PM
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8. good arguments well put
especially what you say about terrorism. btw, welcome to du! :hi:
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:54 PM
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10. She is my Senator, and I have given up writing to her
I have never recieved a reply to any of the letters I have sent. Not even a generic "thank you and fuck off"

I urged her not to vote for the war.
I begged her to come out earlier against this shit.

She can fall with the rest now... her husband's sheen only caries so far.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 03:57 PM
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11. That is an intelligent and eloquent letter!!
Welcome to DU. I can tell by your great letter that you will be an asset here. I look forward to more of your posts!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 05:39 PM
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12. Hi elmerdem!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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