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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 08:58 PM
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I think Mary Landrieu of LA would make a fine VP nominee in '08
She has experience, brains, and looks. She comes from LA and will do a great deal to remind the electorate of the incompetence of the Bush administration in it's response to Katrina.

I think she would be a good choice for almost any of our potential nominees--except maybe Hillary.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:01 PM
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1. no.. too much baggage after Katrina
I mean baggage in the sense they'll blame her for everything except Clinton's BJ trying to smear her.


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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:04 PM
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5. I don't think so, Blanco of any of the Dems will be blamed
unfairly. I don't see the Mississippi Senators being blamed.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:08 PM
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9. If any Dem remotely involved in Katrina runs for higher office..
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 09:09 PM by nini
they'll be slammed whether it's their fault or not.

Perhaps now they're not being blamed, but if they try and go for higher office the other side will get nasty.. it's their way after all.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:11 PM
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11. Governor Blanco's approval is now 34% and that upsets me a lot
Because she DID the BEST she could under the circumstances.

Senator Landrieu would kick the Repuke pigs ALL over the block, she's got a real fighting spirit, she's an attack dog in an election. She's scorched earth, and that's what we need.

With Steve Jardine and Mudcat Saunders running her campaign if she EVER became our nominee.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:49 AM
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35. Yep
Mary is great! I also hope Mitch Landrieu runs for mayor of New Orleans. :)
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:29 PM
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39. I second that Yep! Re. Mitch Landrieu
I've heard that rumor about Mitch running for Mayor of NOLA.

You know, this time next year if Governor Blanco's poll numbers are still so low...I think she should stand down for the good of the party, Mitch would then become Governor and he'd have a full year to establish a record and in 2007 I think he'd be elected Governor in his own right.

I don't know about Mayor, Mr. Swamp Rat...UNLESS he could be Lt. Governor AND Mayor at the same time :)
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:02 PM
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2. Check out her voting record and get back to us.
I could support her as a last resort only, she is way down the list IMHO
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:11 PM
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12. She's pro-choice
her Senate voting record is moderate and inline for a Southern Democrat (ADA gives her a voting record of 60-70 percent). She certainly isn't the most liberal member of the Senate but she's far and away from being the most conservative. It's easy for Boxer or Pelosi to have high liberal ratings because they represent a state like California.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 04:48 AM
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45. I agree. Her voting record is NOT encouraging. n/t
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:29 AM
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50. Agreed -- she does some good stuff, but has voted GOP
on too many key votes.
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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:03 PM
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3. I agree
Mary Landrieu could possibly even run for President in 2008--if Clark does not run, and I personally think she would win-- getting 70% of the vote.
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:04 PM
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4. No to Landrieu ......Boxer/Pelosi would rock. n/t
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:08 PM
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8. They WOULDN'T win though, Landrieu COULD win
See my post number 6 and it's link to earlier comments in another thread I gave on WHY and HOW Landrieu could win.

Landrieu's a Mainstream candidate and she could win crossover votes, that we NEED to win.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:06 PM
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6. Did I kinda sell you on Senator Landrieu? Did I Did I?
She's fab, I've always liked her, she's a good person. Rational, pragmatic and logical reasons I've given too, EVEN if I do say so myself :)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5489166
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 04:12 AM
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43. No, No No Landrieu,
Boxer/Pelosi will rock the house. LOL
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:06 PM
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7. Didn't she support the war?
She is far too cozy with the oil industry in my opinion.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:13 PM
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13. yep
and so did Kerry (the resolution) and Clinton.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:17 PM
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15. Landrieu's cozy with the oil industry BECAUSE Louisiana IS an oil state
And produces 25% of ALL of the oil that the United States uses. It'd be suicidal for her to tell the oil industry to fuck off.

Politicians HAVE to be LOGICAL and PRAGMATIC...politicians RARELY can be PURE and IDEOLOGICAL...unless they want to lose of course.
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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:08 PM
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10. My question for all those pre-nominations of southern and DLC
candidates: can they bring their own state into the Democratic column? Perhaps Louisiana in the wake of Katrina will turn blue but, with the evacuation of many black voters, I have my doubts. I don't think Landrieu is that strong.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:13 PM
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14. Doesn't matter if Landrieu lost Louisiana...Gore lost Tennessee
Landrieu could make up for losing Louisiana, by bringing in Virginia and Nevada, that cancels out Louisiana. I also think she could win Ohio and Missouri.

Landrieu would win Louisiana, because the Landrieu family are VERY popular in the state.
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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:27 PM
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17. And if Gore had carried his home state, he would be President
Unfortunately, Democrats need to plan on ways to win that do not depend upon the southern states. They cannot now count on most southern candidates to even carry their own states, e.g. Gore, Edwards, Bentsen.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:45 PM
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21. If you
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 09:47 PM by ...of J.Temperance
Had of read the link that I posted in my comment number 6, you would see that I had already previously this evening pointed out that Landrieu wouldn't necessarily need to even win the South, or many Southern states.

Landrieu is a Moderate Mainstream Democrat, as such she would play well in the MID-WEST and the MOUNTAIN STATES, and gain Independent votes and Rockefeller Republicans.

So, by EXPANDING her base, as one needs to do in order to win, she could afford to lose 10 Southern states and win just ONE Southern state. She could even win by losing ALL of the Southern states.

Solid Democrats would vote for her anyway, except the ones who always threaten to vote Third Party and I'm not sure what the heck I'd call them especially in 2008...90% of Democrats in the end would vote for Landrieu to stop the Repuke Fascists getting back in...so there would be no need to go out preaching to the choir...instead Landrieu could go and expand her base by talking to Independents and Rockefeller Republicans...if she ran, her running mate could be sent to talk to the choir.

On Edit: Spelling error.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:19 PM
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27. Gore did WIN the presidency n/t
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:39 PM
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30. I know, I'm on record MANY times here saying that Gore won...BUT he
Lost his home state of Tennessee. I know he won, but this thread isn't about that and my comment was in response to that other poster saying if Landrieu lost her home state...and I correctly pointed out that Gore lost HIS home state too.

So you SEE, you CAN win the Presidency WITHOUT winning your HOME state.

Huh? I'm right aren't I? Yep, I think I am.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:17 PM
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36. Um..,.
"And if Gore had carried his home state, he would be President"

That was the statement I was replying to. If I clicked the wrong post, my apologies.

"So you SEE, you CAN win the Presidency WITHOUT winning your HOME state."

Yep. :) That was my point too.


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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:25 PM
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38. Sorry :) I meant that as a reponse to post number 17, not you!
Post 17 said that if Gore had won Tennessee he would be President now. So I said you can win the Presidency WITHOUT winning your home state, as President Gore proved.

How embarrassing...and I haven't recently EVEN been hit on the head by anything ;)
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:34 PM
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40. LOL.
:thumbsup:

Thanks.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:37 PM
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41. Okay
You're welcome :thumbsup:
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:24 PM
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16. No, I think not
Wouldn't do it for me. Too conservative, for one thing. Katrina baggage, for another.

No, we can do better.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:28 PM
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18. No thanks, I'd rather have a Democrat.
And don't even bother defending her. Her voting record is deplorable.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:44 PM
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20. Thank you.
I couldn't agree more.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:29 PM
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19. no she won`t and i will
say nothing more
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:49 PM
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22. She votes with rpukes on anti-environment issues involving mining and
of course oil and gas. Controlled by gas and oil companies. Sorry, she won't cut it with me .
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:54 PM
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23. For the Republican party yea otherwise forget it.
n/t
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:59 PM
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24. Let's stop being so picky
Not everybody we choose has to vote the party line, we need diversity. She's just as good as any other Democrat and picking apart her record for every little thing we don't like is silly, because she mostly votes the right way. She might not have all the views we want, but she's still a good Democrat.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:11 PM
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25. Absolutely not.
She's Lieberman in drag.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:14 PM
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26. At least she would n'g be getting into the WH because of
who she's married to, and that's saying something!
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:34 PM
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28. Isn't Landreu pretty well steeped in crooked Lousiana Politics?
Seems the Landreu family has a long history in LA politics, which have been notorious for their crookedness.

But, other than that, I'd probably vote for her if she had no skeletons!
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:02 AM
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32. Do you have proof of this? Of Landrieu family corruption? Eh?
Yes the Landrieu's have been in Louisiana politics for the last forty years.

So can you post some proof of the accusation that the Landrieu's are corrupt?

If not, I don't kindly take to rumor and innuendo being thrown our way, and I would ask you to please try and refrain from doing this again, unless you can support your comments with some form of proof.

Just sayin'
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:35 PM
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29. We'll have to chisel that smile off her face first
I still can't get over the image of her with that painted on smile.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:47 PM
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31. Isn't she involved in the little old corruption scandal thingy of Scanlon
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 10:51 PM by leesa
and Abramhoff. Think she took lot's of bucks. Also, she really casts some bogus votes some times.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:06 AM
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33. Senator Landrieu took $2,000
And ended up with a further $22,000.

HARDLY the millions that the Repukes took.

She casts some bogus votes...so do 40 out of our 45 Senators from time to time.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:47 AM
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34. Landrieu is just another...
Zell Miller. She has been in the wrong party for years.

NO to this DINO.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:22 PM
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37. Other than her voting record thus far....
you might be right.

There's also that little lack of experience thing, but Edwards had that, too and it didn't seem to hurt too bad.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:41 PM
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42. Look at her voting record.
You should get a VP nod for being a good Democrat...meaning going along with the caucus. She's a turncoat Democrat. And don't give me that crap about her living in a red state.

The population wants people who stick up for thier values.

Most people oppose 80% of what the Republicans fight for in D.C. but vote for them because them anyway.

Her outbusrts agains Mike Brown not withstanding Landrieu is a whimp. She votes conservative because she's afraid to stand up for our Democratic values.

The Liberman as VP disaster should make the future nominee twice about nominating a DLC blessed republican in democratic clothing.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 04:14 AM
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44. She would have to come out against the war in a strong way.
and fix the bankrupcy bill. Not insurmountable problems. A maybe.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:17 AM
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46. She should run as Lieberman's VP
They have been on the same page together for several years. She is not the direction I wish the Democratic party to go. I hold her partly responsible for the shape we are in today. She has voted for virtually every thing Bush* has asked for...
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:23 AM
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47. I like Mary Landrieu, but I don't trust her.
To many times on the senate floor where her vote wouldn't have helped the Dem's tremendously and she went the other way. No Thanks.

Fool me once
shame on YOU

Fool me twice
Shame on ME
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:23 AM
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48. Please do the research. Her voting record often is in lockstep w/Bushbots.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:28 AM
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49. No thanks - I'll pass
Edited on Fri Dec-02-05 07:28 AM by mtnester
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:30 AM
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51. For the Republicans, maybe. We can do much better. nt
nt
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 08:00 AM
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52. If Landrieu is the Veep, I vote Green. (NT)
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 08:09 AM
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53. I hope your kidding
I just spit my coffee!

She sides with BushCO 88% of the time, she's a repug-lite. The ONLY time she came out against this Admin was during Katrina that was for self preservation only. 3 weeks later she was right back under their thumb. I can't stand her! I hope LA kicks her ass out and puts in a real Dem.
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