Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Why has there been no motion toward impeachment?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:10 PM
Original message
Why has there been no motion toward impeachment?
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 03:12 PM by jokerman2004
Are we going to have to pay some nasty neocon intern nincompoop to give Bush a hum-job to go with his pretzels and beer before anyone notices the abuse of executive power that is occuring???

Just wondering.

Why aren't (at least) Sens. Byrd and Kennedy making noises in this direction yet?

Any ideas from the DU Greek chorus?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:12 PM
Response to Original message
1. Simply because
it wouldn't work. At least not YET.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Agreed
The Repukes would never let it happen unless they were receiving huge pressure from their constituants.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #3
16. Or unless *
did something so horrible as to be unavoidable.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:14 PM
Response to Original message
2. the house is republican...
no way will they ever bring impeachment hearings. bush and his thugs will never be brought to justice on any charges that could be impeachable. people will "disappear" before anyone is brought up on charges. that`s just the way it is....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheBlob Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Yup!
This is one of the reasons the 2002 election was so important to Bush.
The more Repubs there are in the House the further Bush gets from accountability.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #2
12. Bingo!...
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
speckledgator Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:19 PM
Response to Original message
5. Why...that would be
blasphemy! ummm heresy... ummm treason! well, it just wouldn't be right
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:20 PM
Response to Original message
6. Wow
I get the picture. Yeah.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Maine-i-acs Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:30 PM
Response to Original message
7. President CHENEY?
Is that what could happen? I shudder to think.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:30 PM
Response to Original message
8. The reason is quite simple, actually

Dennis Hastert is the Speaker of the House, Tom DeLay is the Majority Leader, and Roy Blunt is the Majority Whip.

All impeachment proceedings START in the House. They are TRIED in the Senate.

Expecting the Republiscum Congress to impeach Bush is really expecting Bush to impeach himself. It isn't going to happen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:31 PM
Response to Original message
9. You've got it
There are a few reasons:
1. Bush hasn't been fellated (that we know about) by someone other than his wife.
2. There's a Republican majority in the Senate and the House.
3. The Republicans haven't spent eight years investigating Bush, only to find nothing that would stand up in a court of law.
4. In a "time of war," as the Republicans tell us, any attack on Bush's policies is an attack on not only him, but on his wife, his children, his brothers, his mother, his father, his living sister, his dead sister, the American flag, Abraham Lincoln, apple pie, Bob Hope, every troop that has ever fought for this country, and Jesus Christ.

It would take a scandal of Nixonian proportions to unseat Bush, and I doubt even that would do the trick. So many of Bush's people (Rummy and Dick "Thrombosis" Cheney in particular) are old Nixonites... they have learned their lesson and they know how to get out of a tricky spot.

Impeaching him would be nearly impossible right now; we're better off just trying to impeach him the old-fashioned way, at the ballot box. Or, at the very least, we must hope for a Dem majority in '04 and '06.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:36 PM
Response to Original message
10. Impeachment is political
Impeachment is 100% political. Sure * deserves to be impeach for being the treasonous corrupt incompetent that he is, but with the Repiglicans controlling the House and Senate its not going to happen.

Reagan should have been impeached over the Iran/Contra treason, but wasn't because Tip O'Niell was a smart politician who realised that impeaching a (realtively) popular President during (relatively) good economic times would be counter productive.

Clinton never should have been impeached but was because Newt Gingrich wasn't 1/10th as smart as Tip O'Niell.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LoneStarLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:37 PM
Response to Original message
11. To Further Some of the Points Made Here...
To take the consideration (the correct consideration) other posters have made here about the role the House plays in impeachment proceedings, I would argue that not only does the Republican majority in the House (which will eventually increase by 6 or 7 seats thanks to the Republican stick-up on redistricting in my state) insulate Bush from anything but the most incompetent directly-accountable felon-level crimes, but it also means that should one of our candidates win next year, that same body will be once more eager to roast him or her on the spit.

Anyone who ever tells you that the Presidency is more important than the House or that the Senate is more important than the House JUST DOESN'T GET IT. Remind them of this situation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:52 PM
Response to Original message
13. That would be terrorism

Any opposition or resistance to bush or sharon regimes is terrorism.

You are with or you are with the terrorists.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. Thank you all
for those great answers. I'll tell you, this site has been an incredible resource for my education as an informed American.

I'm really glad I found DU.

Thanks again for your willingness to share your knowledge and insights with me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:01 AM
Response to Original message
15. Too many republicans up on the hill
But then again, one republican is too many to my mind....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 10:02 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC