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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:35 PM
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Trudeau says "Doonesbury" showing Bush defending frat torture "fact-based"
Editor & Publisher: 'Doonesbury' Strip Showing Bush Defending Frat Torture at Yale is 'Fact-Based,' Says Garry Trudeau
By Dave Astor
Published: November 29, 2005 8:00 AM ET


NEW YORK Was this past Sunday's "Doonesbury" -- which had George W. Bush defending the burning of Yale University fraternity initiates with a brand in 1967 -- fact or fiction?

"Totally fact-based," replied Garry Trudeau, in response to an E&P e-mail query. "Bush's comment in panel seven is a direct quote, which is why I put it in quotation marks. In the original Yale Daily News expose, we ran a photo of a pledge's seared backside."...

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This week's Sunday strip(http://www.ucomics.com/doonesbury/2005/11/27/) shows the Mark Slackmeyer character mentioning that Bush's alleged support of torture has roots in 1967 Yale. The Universal Press Syndicate-distributed comic then switches back in time to show screams emanating from the true-life Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity.

"The student paper breaks the story: DKE has been branding their pledges on their backsides with red-hot coathangers," Slackmeyer narrates. "DKE President George W. Bush defends the branding ritual in statements to the press."

The collegiate Bush is then quoted in panel seven as saying: "Insignificant! There's no scarring mark physically or mentally!"

In the eighth and last panel, Slackmeyer is shown again in 2005 as he says: "The rest is history. This has been 'Defining Moments in Torture'!" And the present-day Bush, sitting in the White House, says: "Human pyramids? Hell, I did those as a cheerleader!"


http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/search/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001611706
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 12:40 PM
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1. Will anyone come forward to show the media their "brand"?
Seems to me it would leave a scar, however faint after all these years.

Little Boots feels no pain except his own, which he greatly eggs-aj-jur-rates.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:21 PM
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2. Offered without comment

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 06:10 PM
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10. Oh my word.
Is that thing for real?
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I'm not talking about the branding iron, I'm talking about the thing holding it. ;)
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 01:48 PM
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3. If this is true, it is the best evidence yet for B* being a psychopath.
I have no doubt that this is really the case if he participated in, or approved of, branding another human being. This is psychopathic behavior, plain and simple.

:kick: and Recommended.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:04 PM
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4. I think the blowing up of frogs with firecrackers as a kid, if true...
was also a bad sign.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 03:43 PM
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17. A bad sign indeed. A sign shared in common with serial killers. In other
words, psychopathic behavior. How can anyone doubt his utter lack of compassion? This is one of the many reasons I completely disagree with Sy Herch's recent article. B*'s 'religion' is pure political hype, ala Rove/Machiavelli.
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this_side_up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:56 PM
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6. Kitty Kelly's book - said there is a family still
too terrified to speak about whatever the moron
did to their son. After all these decades.

Any guesses? Anal rape?
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 03:47 PM
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18. M$M sure shut Kitty Kelly up fast on this one, didn't they? It was
probably a good thing for her...she could have been anthraxed, suicided, or involved in an untimely small aircraft crash.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:09 PM
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5. Bush membership in occult cabals -- and that's what this shit is --
should be profoundly disturbing to every true Christian -- and every decent person -- on the planet.

Knock the torture shit off. Now.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:58 PM
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7. "Bush On The Couch,"
a really well-researched and written book, makes a great accompaniment to Kitty Kelley's book.

He's a sociopath, and you will see that he's the son of a mother who's also a sociopath, as, most likely, her mother was.

A really malignant family history there.

Two riveting reads that I highly recommend.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:02 PM
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8. the original strip is here >
Edited on Thu Dec-01-05 05:03 PM by Stephanie
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:41 PM
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9. I've heard this confirmed by a Yale contemporary of Bush
who says they also regularly had to drag his drunk ass back to his room. His assesment of Bush lies strictly in the drunk/fratboy/idiot category. I can't say more as he hasn't made a public statement.

btw- This guy went to Vietnam after graduating Yale.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 06:22 PM
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11. I believe I remember Garry talking about this in his RS interview
last year. He hould know he was at Yale at the same time as the asshat.
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Freedomfried Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:31 PM
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12. Theres a bit of a difference between having a slight scar on ones ass
as a result of a drunken night in a frat house playing with a coat hanger, and being beaten and tortured in a 3rd world prison camp.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:49 PM
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13. Problem is that George, Rush, e.t al. think its all the same.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:56 PM
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15. True--not all kids who blow up frogs with firecrackers--
--turn out to be serial killers, but most serial killers have animal abuse in their background.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:59 PM
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14. Wow...
I read Doonesbury on Sunday, but I didn't realize that stuff was true. Bush is even worse than I thought, if that is possible.

Tammy
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:09 PM
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16. New meaning to "All Hat, No Cattle." (nt)
Edited on Thu Dec-01-05 11:09 PM by stickdog
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