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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:11 PM
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Lynne Cheney Unhinged: Insists Her Husband Never Connected Saddam to 9/11

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/01/lynne-cheney-unhinged/

Lynne Cheney Unhinged: Insists Her Husband Never Connected Saddam to 9/11

Yesterday, Lynne Cheney appeared on NPR’s Diane Rehm Show to offer an indefensible defense of her husband’s attempts to link Iraq to 9/11:

(Full transcript of the conversation below)

In fact, when specifically asked about the link, Vice President Cheney did not play down — but rather played up — the connection. Here are the specifics:

WHEN ASKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT AN IRAQ - 9/11 LINK, CHENEY SAID IT WAS “PRETTY WELL CONFIRMED”:


RUSSERT: Do you still believe there is no evidence that Iraq was involved in September 11?
CHENEY: “Well, what we now have that’s developed since you and I last talked, Tim, of course, was that report that—it’s been pretty well confirmed that (9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta) did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack.” (NBC, Meet The Press, 12/9/01)

EVEN AFTER THE WAR BEGAN, WHEN SPECIFICALLY ASKED, CHENEY SUGGESTED THERE MIGHT BE AN IRAQ - 9/11 CONNECTION:

RUSSERT: The Washington Post asked the American people about Saddam Hussein, and this is what they said: 69 percent said he was involved in the September 11 attacks. Are you surprised by that?
CHENEY: No. I think it’s not surprising that people make that connection.
MR. RUSSERT: But is there a connection?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: We don’t know.
(NBC, Meet the Press, 11/14/03)

CHENEY SAID IRAQ WAS THE “GEOGRAPHIC BASE” FOR 9/11 HIJACKERS:


CHENEY: If we’re successful in Iraq, … we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11.” (NBC, Meet The Press, 9/14/03)

Here’s the relevant transcript for the Diane Rehm Show:

L. CHENEY: I don’t know of any leader – certainly the president or vice president has never said that Saddam Hussein was connected with 9/11.

REHM: But there have been connections made in speeches putting Saddam Hussein and Iraq adjacent to 9/11.

L. CHENEY: Well, I’ve seen Dick specifically say “no” to the question asked “is there a connection between Saddam Hussein and 9/11” because there isn’t a connection between Saddam Hussein and 9/11. So, if your caller is troubled, I guess I would just like to know more specifics.

REHM: More specifics — you mean a quotation?

L. CHENEY: Sure. I mean the president nor the vice president has ever made that assertion because it isn’t true. There’s no connection between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.

REHM: I think that a great many people perhaps have had the impression that that is something the President and vice president have done. Now whether, as you say, there is no explicit paragraph to be cited, I think our listeners are going to supply that.

L. CHENEY: Good. Because it sounds like a straw man. You know you set up something that someone supposedly said so that you can knock it down. But the president and vice president have been very clear – when asked specifically, that there was no connection.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:13 PM
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1. They're all "Unhinged" by
those standards. Deny, Deny, Deny..even if they have you on tape and video. And shows like the today freakin' show give mary matlin all the rw lying points she can spew in her time and Kerry gets interrupted by matt louser.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:13 PM
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2. do doo do doo A la TWILIGHT ZONE
Lynne honey it's time for your THORAZINE!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:14 PM
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3. if she says it often enough=lots of sheepie will believe her!!!1




...... I mean the president nor the vice president has ever made that assertion because it isn’t true. There’s no connection between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:18 PM
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13. bu bu bu if they never said there was a connexn, why did we invade???
Sheepies should wonder--if they had a brain--

they certainly believed Cheney said there was a connection!
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:14 PM
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4. Reminds me of the old joke: How do you know when a Republican is lying?
When her lips are moving.

Ba-dum-bum! :)
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:15 PM
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5. As far as I'm concerned, anyone w/ the last name Bush or Cheney are LIARS!
Go FUCheney yourself Lynne....you are not a good woman! :grr:
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:15 PM
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6. I might as well say
"The dog was in the backyard. It dug up your flowers." Then insist that I never said the dog dug up your flowers. I only asserted that *IT* dug up the flowers and it could be any number of things because of it's status as a pro-noun.

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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:15 PM
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7. I was screaming "you LIAR" when I was listening to her lying liarly
ass yesterday morning.

Didja notice how she "responded" to Colin Powell's chiefs charges against her husband? "It doesn't merit a response." In other words, you don't WANT to respond, you lying POS. She also didn't respond to the vet's questions about whether she had any family members serving in Iraq, nor to his point that Dickie got 5 deferments to the draft.

What a horrible person.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:55 PM
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27. Oh, good, I'm so glad I'm not the only one who screams at the tv & radio!
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 10:51 AM
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37. "Not a good person."
Anybody who would marry a Dick like that must be unhinged.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:15 PM
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8. Her nose must be growing by the minute. What a bunch of lies...
coming out of her mouth. She knows damn well he, along with Bush, did their best to connect Saddam with 9/11.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:15 PM
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9. Married to THIS? Unhinged is a good word....
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:34 PM
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20. Snarlin guy is a natural
to pose for Ralph Steadman. He already looks like a Ralph Steadman picture in real life.

(He did the illustrations for many of Hunter Thompson's books for this who need a memory jump start on the name.)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:16 PM
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10. How do we send mrs. c. this thread!!
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:16 PM
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11. Lying liar
Like her shitbag husband.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:17 PM
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12. God will get you, Lynne liar!
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:20 PM
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14. Why is it...
that when a Dem of any sort is on some show and makes a bald faced lie statement, the moderator happens to pull out a seemingly talking point directly from the right wing propaganda machine?

See, if we used their tactics, all of these moderators would be supplied with a print out of Dem talking points to confront these liars. I mean, come on, it can't be that hard for a Dem strategist to find out when and where these most likely to lie wingnuts are most likely to be appearing next, right?

We must learn to work these people better and more effectively.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:36 PM
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21. Can you give some examples of when a "Dem of any sort"
went on some shows and made "bald faced lie" statements?
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:22 PM
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15. republican = filth.
That's really the point we've reached.

I don't know how anyone with a shred of integrity about them can go on calling themselves "republican."
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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:23 PM
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16. she's a kool-aid drinker e/m
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:23 PM
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17. Read this Lynne and tell us that they didn't say this.
Presidential Letter
Text of a Letter from the President to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President Pro Tempore of the Senate




March 18, 2003

Dear Mr. Speaker: (Dear Mr. President:)

Consistent with section 3(b) of the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Public Law 107-243), and based on information available to me, including that in the enclosed document, I determine that:

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic and other peaceful means alone will neither (A) adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq nor (B) likely lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and

(2) acting pursuant to the Constitution and Public Law 107-243 is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

Sincerely,

GEORGE W. BUSH

(Letter * sent to Congress)
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Tamarin Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:25 PM
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23. The letter to Congress is the most damning but they were careful
in general not to directly link Saddam and 9/11. More often, what they did was to equate Saddam with Al Qaeda, link Iraq with Al Qaeda, and then claim that Saddam had WMD and that he would then give this WMD to Al Qaeda or other terrorist groups. If we remember back, the drumbeats linking Al Qaeda and Iraq went on for months both before and after the invasion. The following is an excerpt from *Remarks by the Vice President to the Heritage Foundation* in October of 2003, 6 months afterward, still linking Saddam with Al Qaeda.
".....Some claim we should not have acted because the threat from Saddam Hussein was not imminent. Yet, as the President has said, "Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike?" I would remind the critics of the fundamental case the President has made since September 11th. Terrorist enemies of our country hope to strike us with the most lethal weapons known to man. And it would be reckless in the extreme to rule out action, and save our worries, until the day they strike. As the President told Congress earlier this year, if threats from terrorists and terror states are permitted to fully emerge, "all actions, all words and all recriminations would come too late." That is the debate, that is the choice set before the American people. And as long as George W. Bush is President of the United States, this country will not permit gathering threats to become certain tragedies."
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 06:42 PM
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30. In the minds of the general public :
September 11 = Must Get Osama/Saddam Monster

How long will this lie take to get to Fox News and Rush? Will people actually be willing to go around saying, "Nobody said Saddam was connected to 9-11" at this point?

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Tamarin Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 08:44 AM
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32. But, they repeatedly connected Saddam to Al Qaeda;
and so people made the logical leap. Like you said, Al Qaeda = Saddam. Since Al Qaeda = 9/11 then 9/11 also = Saddam in their minds.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:24 PM
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18. That's a fucking laugh.
How many quotes have there been of Cheney doing exactly that? Like the world doesn't have access to Lexis or Google. Shameless.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:27 PM
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19. These people will just LIE.
It's absolutely amazing. There's no room for wiggle in this one, Lynne Dear. You are lying. Of course, after being the spouse to the devil, I suppose lying is the least of her sins.
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 02:38 PM
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22. She's a damned liar, just like the sonofabitch she's married to
Dick has never stopped saying that there was a connection between Hussein and 9/11. He keeps pushing the lie even after his previous statements have been thoroughly and repeatedly debunked!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:35 PM
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24. Lynee is tawdry. NOT a good person. nt
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:37 PM
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25. Lynne Cheney is in such denial
about her hubby or either she just loves being as evil as he is:eyes:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:50 PM
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26. The interiviewer is a failure.
The facts and qoutes should have been handy to back up the question because the interviewer knew that Ms. Cheney was going to lie in her response to the questions.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 06:03 PM
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28. Obviously the Rightwing propaganda machine
is out to rewrite history. (And this week Donald Rumsfeld wants to get the word 'insurgent' erased from the collective memory banks...)

I'm glad these creeps are being recorded in these lies. When the history of this era is written, there will be plenty of evidence of their use of the media as their personal lie blaster.

Black is White. Seig Heil.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 03:17 PM
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46. "Rewrite History"! Precisely. First thought I had when I read this post.
Watever these liars accuse others of, be sure that they do it themselves. Black is White, indeed.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 06:09 PM
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29. HAHAHAHA!!!! Mrs. Piggie calls it a straw man!
Oh the irony! :rofl:

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 06:56 PM
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31. That wacky Lynne
Re-Writing history again.

http://hnn.us/articles/8418.html
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 08:53 AM
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33. Her statements are a LOSE/LOSE proposition for B*shCabal™
Lose:
For those who care about FACTS,
her statements are easily proven to be
incorrect.

BIGGER LOSS:
For those who DON't care about facts (B*sh's 34% base)
SHE JUST CLEARLY SAID THAT SADDAM HAD NO CONNECTION TO 9/11!
Lots of freepers still think he did,
thanks to the way this MisAdmin carefully
catapults its propaganda.

She wasn't that careful- she DIRECTLY denied it 4 times.
How many freeper heads exploded when she did that?

THIS IS HUGH!!!!!
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 09:35 AM
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34. Another bubblehead just like Pickles n/t
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 09:56 AM
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35. They're all cuckoo for coco puffs
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 10:09 AM
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36. Remember this article by Molly Ivins, Lynne?
http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/16888/

Are you confused yet? Two weeks ago, President Bush said, "There's no question that Saddam Hussein had Al Qaeda ties." In September 2002, he said, "You can't distinguish between Al Qaeda and Saddam." But Bush also said two weeks ago, "We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the Sept. 11."

That helpful clarification came after Vice President Dick Cheney was asked on "Meet the Press" why he thought 70 percent of Americans believe Saddam was behind Sept. 11. "It's not surprising that people make that connection," said the veep. Back in 2001, Cheney had said it was "pretty well confirmed" that Iraq and the Sept. 11 hijackers had coordinated. But most recently he said, "I don't know" if Saddam was connected to Sept. 11.

On the thoroughly discredited report that the lead hijacker Mohammad Atta met with an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague in 2001, Cheney said, "We've never been able to develop any more of that yet either in terms of confirming it or denying it." In fact, the report has been disavowed by Czech intelligence, and American intelligence found that Atta was on the East Coast of the United States at the time of the alleged meeting.

(October 2, 2003)
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Chalco Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:34 AM
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38. That's it. I've had it.
I sent an email to Diane yesterday, saying that I could not bear to listen to the Lynn Cheney episode. I was afraid my usually normal blood pressure would go completely nuts.

Reading this discussion just did it.

I sent an email to the "president" as comments@whitehouse.gov then called the White House comment line at 202-456-1111.

Feel free to do the same.

My message was that they should resign for the good of the country.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:37 AM
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39. Pretty typical Repub tactic...say it in once sentence, deny it in the next
And so it goes. Consistence is all that matters.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 12:27 PM
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40. Her husband has a habit of LYING on FILM nm
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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 02:07 PM
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41. Trying to get hubby out of the doghouse with Chimpy??
Of course she is lying. But the more interesting question is why is she on the circuit making these claims now? If we can believe the reports that the first dick has been ousted from Chimpy's inner circle due to the "bad perception" of the Iraq war, it seems that he has put old Lynne out there to try and soften his stance. The only thing he cares about is his relationship with the Chimp because his power is only granted to him, he has no power of his own. So I think he is trying to get back into the inner circle and re-claim his power. He certainly doesn't care what the American people think.

I think it's funny that this is happening. It shows how desperate Cheney is. Perhaps he no longer even gets to speak to Bush so he has to communicate through the press. Sometimes we think these thugs are all-powerful--it's a pleasure to watch them squirm.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 02:11 PM
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42. Saddama bin Laden is THE straw man n/t
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 02:32 PM
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43. So mrs. goering falls in lock step. I'm so surprised..
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 02:50 PM
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44. and they have been clear on the connection between saddam
and 9/11. they always say no and then go right on talking about the connections between saddam and 9/11. that is what trips me out about the so-called morale christians is how they so easy defend two liars.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 03:05 PM
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45. God, they're ALL liars! These people sicken me. The extent of their
lies, and the consequences of their lies, make Clinton's puny lie almost embarrassing. But they are the 'moral' ones, right? NOT.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 05:31 PM
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47. She's just catapulting the propaganda
It's what these roaches do. It's all these roaches do.
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