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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 10:31 PM
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BREAKING: FITZGERALD REAFFIRMS THAT GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING
http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001613844

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CHICAGO The prosecutor in the CIA leak case on Friday opposed public release of some details about the criminal investigation, while supporting the disclosure of information regarding I. Lewis Libby, the indicted former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney.

In court papers, Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald said continued secrecy is not necessary with respect to portions of a federal appeals court ruling from 10 months ago that "directly relate to Mr. Libby." Libby was indicted on Oct. 28 on five counts of perjury, obstruction and lying to the FBI.

Secrecy is necessary for other material in the court ruling to protect witnesses or subjects of the investigation from public embarrassment or ridicule "as well as to protect the integrity of the ongoing investigation," Fitzgerald argued.

Dow Jones & Co., publisher of The Wall Street Journal, is seeking release of redacted portions of an appeals court decision from Feb. 15, 2005. In it, Judge David Tatel affirmed that New York Times reporter Judith Miller and Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper were in contempt of court for refusing to testify in Fitzgerald's investigation. Both subsequently testified.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 10:56 PM
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1. Kick!
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 10:58 PM
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2. Good news!
A rightwing co-worker of mine keeps denying the investigation is ongoing. I say, let's have all the confirmation we can get!

Thanks.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 07:27 AM
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23. Let him/her think that
It should be pretty good theatre when reality hit them in the face.
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:19 PM
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36. Please direct her to Fitz's Dec 2nd (yesterday) response
Edited on Sat Dec-03-05 12:23 PM by pk_du
to requested release of previously (Feb 2005) redacted info.

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/documents/final_response_dow_jones_motion_unseal.pdf

Page 2 , Para 2 , last sentence...

"Likewise , on appeal , in order to maintain the confidentiality of the sealed materials and the integrity of the investigation , which was then , and remains, ongoing ..."



..then again , she could argue he concluded the investigation immediately after issuing that repsonse (/snark off) :O)


on edit...

...Oh, and on Page 4 - para 2..

"The Grand jury investigation that led to the indictment of Mr. Libby is ongoing"

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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:00 PM
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3. K&R. What was in the redacted portions? Do we know yet? ....n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:01 PM
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4. waiting and watching. Rove is going to go down.... I can feel it in my
fingers!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:06 PM
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5. Blood in the water
:D

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 09:17 AM
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28. Anything is possible.
However, it is important to remember that while he is a first class asshole, Rove is not a major player in the Iraqi war. His role in the war and the Plame scandal is not as significant as Libby's, or several other of the neocons. The most important might be VP Cheney.

Were we witness to the on-going investigation, I think we'd find that Rove is being pressured to accept a very reduced charge, to which he can either plead guilty now, or be convicted of later along with two other more serious charges .... and cooperate with the investigation. If this sounds like I'm repeating myself, it is true. I had said the same thing in the late summer of 2004.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 09:43 AM
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32. Repetition Or Not
It's good to hear your voice on this.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:07 PM
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6. Don't you think it's a bit odd when you get more recommends than replies?
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:35 PM
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11. I don't think it is odd when the thread is reporting a fact,
If a post is an opinion, it obviously calls for responses.

(but was your question rhetorical?)

Anyhow . . . . Good News is always welcome.

Fitz, you are a sex symbol!
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:38 PM
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12. Not so much as a rhetorical question as an alternative to "k & r"
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:36 AM
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15. I wish I could vote more than once, to be honest.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 07:40 AM
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24. no, its faster than replying ALSO
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:21 AM
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35. I don't see why, unless you disagree with it.
Many a time I've liked and agreed with a post and recommended it, without wishing to add to it, or comment on it.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 01:00 PM
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38. Me, too. But even then I usually "k & r" the thread (I'm not complaining)
I'm just saying . . .
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:08 PM
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7. Come On, Fitzy... Come Onnnn Fitzy.... I can feel it
But remember DU, when it comes time for the next indictment, we can't call it Fitzmas. Just say Happy Holidays LOL

(that's just a joke, I thought ya might find it funny. Merry Fitzmas!)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 01:28 AM
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17. LOL
If it wasn't ongoing I would doubt Fitzgerald would still be in Washington eh?
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:17 PM
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8. I just can't help it - 'Treasons Greetings'
it's like getting a large christmas/hanukkah parcel with wrappings. It's so secretive you don't know what's inside! Can't wait until it's opened.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:24 PM
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9. I know exactly the feeling! The Abramoff thingy is looming
in the big bright shinny box. And it is load with gifts.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 01:32 AM
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18. Wouldn't it be great
if the Abramoff scandal and the Fitzgerald/Wilson case popped the same day??? Hey a girl can dream!
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #18
33. What About AIPAC
A little birdie told me that the case will probably heat up in January.
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 06:55 PM
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42. That would be a TRUE Fitzmas miracle...
God bless us, everyone :)
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:54 PM
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13. Or, happy indictments!
:)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:36 PM
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37. Good one!
And we wish you a Merry Fitzmas, too!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:26 PM
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10. Good
:-)
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:34 AM
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14. "...to protect witnesses or subjects of the investigation from
public embarrassment or ridicule..." I don't recall that being a big priority for Kenneth Starr.
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 06:59 PM
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43. there are reasons for that
Starr's investigation was about the opposition trying to change public opinion of (IMHO) the best president EVER!

When you have no case all you can do is foster leaks and hope that the insubstantial accusations carry you toward the goal. It didn't work.

Plus, have you SEEN Fitzgerald on TV, he is a mean looking, hard nosed, get-it-done prosecutor. Starr was a wuss by comparison, flighty and disorganized.

DOWN WITH DUMYA!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 07:07 PM
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44. You must be new?
Otherwise, you would know that we ALL have seen Patrick Fitzgerald and talk about him on a daily basis. Half the board is in :loveya: with his sexy self!



Welcome to DU! :hi:
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 07:10 PM
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45. it was rhetorical...
thanks for the welcome, I learn more and more here every day.
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shadowlight Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 12:40 AM
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16. And no real leaks.
There have been no real leaks in this investigation.
Compare this to the leaks in investigations against Clinton.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:48 AM
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19. Jail for all of 'em!



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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:57 AM
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20. All we need is the movie theme from Jaws.
Da dump...da dump...........
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 06:45 AM
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21. Did scared persons ask for information release?
That's nice. It means that those crooks are sweating. Good.

Strength, courage and love to you, Patrick Fitzgerald.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 06:47 AM
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22. And be careful. These guys are vicious and slippery
:kick:
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 08:58 AM
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25. Libby = fallguy, Fitzgerald = damage control op. n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 09:18 AM
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29. silly n/t
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 09:29 AM
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30. we'll see, won't we?
or do you think Libby is actually the main guy behind this?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:26 AM
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34. Many of us do see.
The question about Libby needs to be broken don into two parts. First, the charges thus far only have to do with his trying to obstruct Fitzgerald's investigation. The prosecutor's press conference made that clear. The indictments is pretty clear on that. I'm unaware of any serious dispute about that.

Second, regarding who is the "main guy" .... there are a couple ways to look at your question. He certainly is far more important of a player than Karl Rove. The only person who plays a potentially equal or greater role is Dick Cheney. Saying that, one goes back to the first part .... and that the only way to determine if anyone played a larger role is by doing exactly what Fitzgerald is doing.

For fun, would you have any suggestions on what Fitzgerald could have done, or could do, better? And any theories on who played a greater role than Libby?
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choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 09:04 AM
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26. Was there any question about this?
Why are people surprised that the investigation is still going on? Didn't Karl Rove's assistant and the Time magazine reporter, Ms. Novak, just appear in front of the grand jury??
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 09:11 AM
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27. No, yes, and no.
There is no question it is on-going. Republicans are surprised, because Fox News has created the illusion that it was completed, with no significant wrong-doing found anywhere, except in the bullying tactics of Fitzgerald and that liberal media. And Ms. Novak has not appeared in front of a grand jury. Like Mr. Woodward, she will give a deposition under oath. Apparently, Mr. Rove's attorney is soon to be put under oath to discuss his conversations with Ms. Novak.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 09:40 AM
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31. Yeah the Limbaughs of the world and fox
Edited on Sat Dec-03-05 09:41 AM by DemonFighterLives
have got the cultists believing it is all over. No foul, no penalty.
If they only weren't so shallow they would see that a perfect storm is brewing with GFY cheney at the helm. The more they drag and stonewall, the more people that become involved in the cover up. Poor kn*cklehead has his little hands full with the Delay/Abramoff/Reed/Dukester scandal spiraling out of control.
The Culture of Corruption and Ineptness is taking it's toll on them all.
:nopity:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 02:23 PM
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39. Good - then bunkerboy and Snotty his mouth piece will be GLAD
that they have "permission" to answer any and all questions about Libby and don't have that pesky "can't answer about an on-going investigation" blockade that they "obviously hate"!

They will be glad that they can finally be forthcoming and forthright about any and all such matters, just as they say they are!

(sarcasm off)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 05:09 PM
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40. The response filed Friday describes the "redacted" pages this way:
Fitzgerald's response states: "However, the Special Counsel has concluded that secrecy continues to be necessary with respect to the remainder of the redacted pages, in order to protect from public embarrassment or ridicule individuals whose status as grand jury witnesses or subjects has not been publicly disclosed, as well as to protect the integrity of the ongoing investigation."

The response filed Friday describes the "redacted" pages this way:

"The redacted pages of Judge Tatel's separate opinion contain a detailed analysis of evidence collected by the grand jury with respect to the grand jury's need for the information sought by the challenged subpoenas to reporters, the existence of alternative sources of that information, and the public interest in enforcing the subpoenas. The redacted pages make extensive reference to the identity of grand jury witnesses, the substance of their testimony, and the strategy and direction of the investigation."

Lawyers for Dow Jones could not be reached for response Friday evening.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 06:37 PM
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41. Why is Dow Jones & Company interfering with Fitzgerald's investigation?
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 10:16 PM
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46. Because the economy is doing so well...
Edited on Sun Dec-04-05 10:17 PM by Carolab
under Bushco?

:sarcasm:
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