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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:54 AM
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Rupert Murdoch's War on Christmas
News Corporation employee Bill O'Reilly: "You don't stop saying Merry Christmas because somebody's offended. That's fascism. It's not a majority rule; it is what's right and wrong."

News Corporation employee John Gibson: "Yes, Virginia, there is a war on Christmas. It’s the secularization of America’s favorite holiday and the ever-stronger push toward a neutered "holiday" season so that non-Christians won’t be even the slightest bit offended."
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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 10:59 AM
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1. Good one, mate ...
... n/t
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:11 AM
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11. Thanks....
Earlier this week, one DUer put up a screenshot from the Fox News online store, where according to the accompanying description one could actually buy a Bill O'Reilly "holiday ornament" for one's "holiday tree"....

Still waiting for the Falafel King to register his outrage over that....
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:00 AM
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2. Fascism is when Corporations Bribe or Extort your Vote away ..with Campaign
Edited on Sat Dec-03-05 11:02 AM by sam sarrha
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and i am personally offended being constantly intimidated with all the Christian crap in Science, the Schools, Government and media.

there is always some christian trying to crawl up your ass cause they dont like what you think or do.. that harms no one else
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:01 AM
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3. This is what these people are reduced to
Ranting about idiotic "issues" like this. Yes, they are major hypoctites here too......
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:03 AM
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4. they got nothing else to cover up the slaughter in the illegal Iraq war
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:14 AM
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12. The war on happy holidays....
Even for Faux Noise, this is gloriously dimwitted. Did you see O'Reilly actually attacked Bloomberg for saying "Happy Holidays?"
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:03 AM
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5. Will the FOX hosts boycott?
Though it would be a good occasion for bin Reilly to play grabass.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:15 AM
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13. Good question!
Let's see if O'Reilly has any Xmas tree balls and bites the hand that feeds him....
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:04 AM
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6. Merry Christmas Ho! Ho! Ho!
I most always said that in good cheer and a smile. Ho! Ho! Ho!

In light of the latest foolish debate I will now just say "Bah Humbug."

These guys will say any stupid thing, assume any stupid position to make a buck. Merry Christmas indeed.

In my younger years I associated Christmas with the Catholic Church. 'Christ-Mass'. How dumb could that be?

And so on.

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:17 AM
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14. Did you see Wolcott the other day?
"Scenes from the War on Christmas
Posted by James Wolcott

Today this nice saleslady handed me the blue Tiffany box she had tied with a ribbon just so and, with a twinkle in her smile, wished me a Merry Christmas. So I socked her. "

http://jameswolcott.com/
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:41 AM
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20. My world is very small MrBenchley
and self centered. If things are not about ME I seldom pay attention anymore. Ho! Ho! Ho!

I do not know James Wolcott. But I understand his sentiment in the quoted incident.

I wrote a short story once. 'My World Grows Smaller and Smaller' I am living there now.

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:44 AM
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21. LOL!
Last night on the "Monk Xmas Special"

Monk: These people do not understand the true meaning of Christmas!
Natalie: Which is?
Monk: Leaving me alone!
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:49 AM
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23. And 'Monk' is?
Sigh

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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:08 AM
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7. Isn't it interesting
the way both "sides" accuse one another of fascism?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:09 AM
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8. Huh?
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:20 AM
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16. First paragraph of op
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:22 AM
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17. It was the "sides" that threw me...
Are you really implying that Democrats are the same as Republicans?
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:28 AM
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18. ideologic "sides"
each accuse the other of facism, I have noticed
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:09 AM
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9. Well, if it isn't the "Faux "news" Corporation" blathering again
Do these people spew their idiotic opinions without even the slightest thought? ...or are they trying to start civil unrest by provoking people? We know who the Nazi's are Mr. O'Anus.
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Kipling Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:10 AM
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10. *snigger*
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:19 AM
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15. That heathen bastard!
I wonder if the fundies will get all up in arms over one of their own dissing Christ?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:46 AM
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22. I'm sure you noticed all the uproar from the fundies
about Scooter Libby's pornographic novel...imagine, a pornographer in the White House!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:33 AM
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19. the "war" on Christmas has nothing to do with a greeting
but everything to do with the materialisation of the holiday. Christmas as I was taught was a time for giving, and not of things but of ourselves, to remember Christ's teachings and to try our best to act upon them. If I were still a Christian, I would have a creche in my house, but no tree (never had a tree, come to think of it) and no Santa myth, and definately not a lot of junky "gifts" or the desire to "outdo" someone else when it comes to giving presents.

Of course Fox doesn't want to hear that the meaning of Christmas isn't spend, spend, spend, but rather helping one another, giving to the poor, etc, etc.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:53 AM
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25. Actually I think the war on Xmas has nothing to do with anything
but nonsense...

Worth noting that the colonists did not celebrate Xmas (Xmas celebrations were actually forbidden in Puritan New England)...and that the holiday was actually dying out until Charles Dickens published his Chrstmas Carol in 1843...
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 01:56 PM
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26. you are correct
Massachusetts didn't make the day a holiday until the 1850s. But I guess that is my point-what these people are talking about really isn't a Christian holiday, but rather a bow to the god of materialsim.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 11:52 AM
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24. O'Reilly is ALWAYS 150% right and we're all traitors and idiots...
The guy's colossal ego is amazing. H-I-S personal opinions are 150% right: God-given, immutable and divinely carved in stone like the Ten Commandments. Anyone else who doesn't share his exact views is a traitor, idiot or worse. The smug arrogance of it all is dizzying, depressing & disgusting. To think that in 50 years American TV News has gone from Edward R. Murrow to Bill O'Reilly. It's like the theory of evolution in reverse --- we're going back to apes (ooops I forgot, we're not supposed to mention evolution anymore, only "intelligent design".)
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