Jewish group "FED UP" with the WAR being waged against Christmas!

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(AgapePress) - A group of Jewish Americans says its members are fed up with the war being waged against Christmas. Yesterday, at a National Press Club gathering in Washington, the group's president, Don Feder, voiced his organization's feelings when he declared, "Jews Against Anti-Christian Defamation is here today to say, 'Enough already. If you're offended by a municipal Christmas tree or Santa Claus in a holiday parade or a manger in a park, get over it.'"

Feder went on to say that banning the word "Christmas" and other references to Jesus makes no sense in the United States. "This is an overwhelmingly Christian nation, and it's a matter of simple courtesy to acknowledge a holiday celebrated by 96 percent of the American people," he asserted...

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews Against Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across the U.S. to rise in defense of Christians' right to say "Merry Christmas" and to celebrate the birth of Jesus according to their faith and traditions without the threat of being prohibited or censured because of political correctness.

"Why would a group of Jews who don't celebrate Christmas care about the disappearance of Christmas?" Feder asked, anticipating the question from his listeners. "Because Christmas is disappearing," he proceeded to explain. "It's disappearing from our culture at an alarming rate, disappearing from stores, disappearing from schools, and disappearing from the public square."

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/22005a.asp

I was deeply offended.

I said something about it and came under immediate fire.

No shopping commercials, no Christmas specials. Nothing! It is disappearing before our very eyes!

I don't watch TV but I'm guessing you're being sarcastic?

:)

There aren't any specials this year are there? hummmm ... that is curious. Perhaps all the faces of those that usually would have done them in the past are no longer recognizable by the demographic that the ads for said special would target?

There was a time, not that long ago, when every performer HAD to have an in to a Christmas special. Anybody who was anybody tried to get their own special ... now ... nada.

Perhaps it is not the "war on the baby Jesus" that they are fearing, but rather the "war on commercialism" that will be a win for the Christians but a loss for the business owners. They just might be the ones giving this particular holiday the lethal injection and they don't even realize it yet.

Ironic, isn't it? They (the Christians and/or the business owners as both collective groups and singular people) have to choose a "holy" thing to worship, Jesus or Money, but just maybe not both this year.

I think it was Johnny Carson who quipped that these performers would get temporary custody of their kids so they could feature them on their Christmas programs. At the end, they would all gather 'round the tree and sing those carols--what a happy family time! You could only guess what went on after the cameras quit rolling.

Ah--the good old days!

Tired Old Cynic

Talk about manufactured outrage. :eyes:

My guess is the chairman is probably from FOX news and the membership is, oh, four?

The problem is that up until now, really, and STILL now, many Christians object to the commercialization of Christmas. That, as much as respect for other religions left many businesses to use Happy Holidays or Season's Greetings.

Now, a few right-wing pundits want to blame the liberals for this, because their right-wing shit stinks so bad, they need to raise a boogieman to try and draw away some of the flies.

The worship of capital greed, to cash in on all religious beliefs, was what it was all about. That's a GOP issue.

I saw him on OLielly last night (quite by accident) talking this same meme with BO ... and BO looked like he was having a hard time shutting Jackie up about it. It was very surreal ... even for BO.

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not religious dogma.

Folks need to relax.

This "War on Christmas" whining is really putting a damper on my normally cheerful holiday spirits.

it's just time to trot out the next woman in jeopardy. Heaven forbid we have real news to discuss.

Ninja Turtles.

They called on Jews to buy more Ninja Turtle products because the marketplace was being dominated by less traditional toys.

Same old story.

Link:

http://nytimes.com/2004/11/04/national/03states.html?hp&ex=11336724gfddfd0&en=ab007bf1gfda7a057f&ei=5094&partner=homepage

I go over there every couple of days - to laugh my booty off.

The site is affiliated with the "American Family Association," and Don and Tim Wildmon.

There is NO better site to go to - to contemplate what is going on in the heads of certain nutty Religious-Reich-oriented relatives of mine.

The article that you cited really takes the prize for nuttiness.

And I don't really have to talk to these relatives - I let Beloved Spouse have the pleasure.

adn we will keep the war going against muslims

From Don Feder's farewell column in Jewish World Review:

"If that wasn't enough, I had nearly a decade of what was for a conservative columnist the most target-rich environment since Sodom and Gomorrah -- the presidency of William Jefferson Clinton, including his crowning high crimes and misdemeanors. Impeachable Willie was the gift that kept on giving, for eight unbelievable years."

His books:

A Jewish Conservative Looks at Pagan America
Who's Afraid of the Religious Right?
Making sense of Jewish liberalism (The Heritage lectures)
Judaism and liberalism: Theologies in conflict (The Heritage lectures)
Killing us with kindness: How liberal compassion hurts (The Heritage lectures)

So he has a whole "group" that espouses his nutty views? I think not. Thanks for the info!

Christmas? i mean, nothing is the same as it was 50 years ago. Get a life. In 50 more years, the US will be a third rate nation with an elite at the top and their domestic servants at the bottom. Let's face it. China is only doing what the US did when it started its great economy in the 1800s...using slave labor.

Of course, I mean the overcommercialized, glitzy, debt-triggering, junk-gift-giving holiday we've come to know.

How about a solemn observance instead?

I want people of all beliefs to have their special days, but for pete's sake, why do us non-Christians have to have this "holiday" forced down our throats for three months out of every freakin' year?

Enough is enough.

I don't wish anyone Merry Christmas because I think its hypocritical and somewhat sacreligious. On the other hand, if someone says the same to me, I take it in the spirit it was meant -- as a greeting of well wishing.

I used to work at a large doctor's office in a very small town -- and was probably the only "openly" non-christian in the area (at least that anyone had regular contact with). Season's Greetings or Happy Holiday's were the norm with me -- and I had a (small tasteful) display with a Menorah and Dradle. Similarly, I never had a problem with decorations around the office and overtly religious symbols on individual employee's desks -- or with employee's using whatever greeting they were comfortable with.

I don't get it from either side. I just don't see it as a big deal. I even was part of a (public) school chorus that sung Silent Night and didn't have a problem with it.

I was at the mall yesterday. Christmas was EVERYWHERE! Trees, decorations, Christmas songs playing on the PA system - even Santa was there for pics with the kiddies!

"Feder went on to say that banning the word 'Christmas' and other references to Jesus makes no sense in the United States."

Who suggested banning the word Christmas? Did I miss something? :shrug: People can "reference" Jesus all they want ... but they can't spend tax-payer money to do it. Why is that such a problem for some people?

"It's disappearing from our culture at an alarming rate, disappearing from stores, disappearing from schools, and disappearing from the public square."

This guy obviously hasn't left the house or watched television recently. You know ... a radio station in NYC started playing Christmas songs 24/7 a few days before Thanksgiving and it won't stop until Christmas is over. The tree at Rockefeller Center ... the tree at Lincoln Center ... the huge, crystal snowflake hanging above Fifth Avenue, which is lined with stores showing off their elaborate Christmas displays in the windows. The Empire State Building is red and green! Of course, it will go blue for Hannukah, but it will be back to red and green in time for Christmas. I bet Feder would say that changing it to blue and recognizing a holiday other than Christmas is destroying our culture! :eyes:

I am soooo sick of these people. "War on Christmas" my ass! No one is stopping anyone from celebrating Christmas; on the contrary, it's the "Christmas fanatics" who are determined to stop everyone else from acknowledging diversity, cultural differences and any other December holiday they wish to celebrate! :mad:

viciously anti-Semitic fanatics intent upon turning this nation into a fundamentalist theocracy.

There is no problem with our society being able to tolerate something more diverse than a monoculture.