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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:25 AM
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I attend church and no one here has attacked me for going.

Infact I find the people on this page to be genuinely warm, concerned, and more carering for me and my disabilites than most of the "christians" I had the misfortune to know in real life. I am proud of the diversity and different view points on this board.
Just because I believe in the bible doesn't mean am right and some one else is wrong.

I also firmly believe that everyone has the right to question criticize and display anger at the people who want to make decisions which affect the rest of us. The right winger theocrats want to keep me crippled up with a disease called parkinson's. You bet i am angry.
I am damn angry that the "righties" think that a "cell" is more important than i am..

However I love my DU family and I don't care if they're gay, straight, athesist, wiccan, jew, or christian. I treat them with respect and they treat me with respect. Thats the way of the world.

So the next time a freeper or a poser says that we are people attacking my faith I challenge that person to let out a deep breath and reread the post. Nine times out of ten there saying they either dont believe in god or they have problems with the stances various churches are taken. Oh and please spare me the right wing broad brush talking point there are many many good christians here on du that feel the same as me

So to my DU family I just want to say thank you all for being there for me day in and day out. I dont care what your religious background is I think your the most awesome and most human bunch of souls I ever have met. Thank you for the support and friendship.

Peace Danny..
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:30 AM
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1. Blessed Be, Danny, Blessed Be!
:hi:
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:34 AM
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2. LOL sorry all the xmas attack threads are making me punchy.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:39 AM
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6. I hear you
I am participating in a satirical way...not really attacking Christmas...since I still celebrate some of it.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:35 AM
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3. Thank you!
:)I am grateful for the good people who post such wonderful insights here. Its good to here a person of faith post here, because to me its one of the worst things I've seen from republicans, the politicization of the church...And with such arrogance! One's personal beliefs, ones relationship to the divine is one of the most sacred, pure things...And to see politics reaching its greasy hands in just makes me wonder...
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whyverne Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:36 AM
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4. And Peace To You Danny Boy
Though I'm not very religious, I have never said anything bad about the Amish or Mormons or any other religious group that doesn't try to force their beliefs on me or my family. My problem is with the religious right and their subverting of democracy to promote a specific agenda.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:39 AM
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5. exactly my feeling
Edited on Sun Dec-04-05 03:39 AM by DanCa
Now they keep pushing christmas on us. I used to love the holiday as a kid now I cant stand em.. I think am going to celebrate festivus instead. I also wish that we would meet in force and start picketing and protesting the right wing loonies outside thier churches and arch diocese. Thats the only way we can shut em up.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:47 AM
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7. Peace DanCa.
:hug:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 03:59 AM
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8. well said, Dan
I don't regularly attend church. Haven't for a long time. I am pretty religious though. I pray constantly. I have mentioned my faith on DU and never had anybody say anything bad about it ever. DUers are some great kind and honest people. I agree with you on all of that.

BTW, I'm glad I've been getting to know you here on DU. You're a great guy.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:02 AM
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9. Right back at you so am I more fun on or off the meds?
Hint when am on them my typping sucks a lot worse than when off. :rofl:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:20 AM
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13. I would say you have merits either way
:)

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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:14 AM
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10. But see, Dan...
You're a walking, talking example of the very person you strive to emulate. How can anybody take issue with your faith when it's clear you live what you believe?

You've always welcomed everyone to your table, without question or judgment. Which makes you welcome at my table anytime. :)
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:26 AM
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14. Thank my parents for that .
Your my friend and your more than welcome to stop by any time you'd like. We'll get some barebecue. :D
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:15 AM
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11. Ramen to you!
:applause: :hug:
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 09:00 AM
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29. ...and may we all be touched by his noodly appendage this season
Edited on Sun Dec-04-05 09:16 AM by Buns_of_Fire
Merry Christmahanukwanzaakah to all. Blessed be. Allah Akbar. And what do you MEAN that's the last beer?

On edit: P.S. I think you were correct in how you handled the ring thing...
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:18 AM
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12. Dan, you are going to make me cry
This atheist DUer wants you to know that I'm pulling for you. I have the utmost respect for you for your perserverence and willingness to fight for progressive causes despite the challenges you face. All I can say is :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:28 AM
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15.  you guys fight for me and i fight for you.
You want me to live without pain, theres no more greater gift than that. It is I who should thank you and every democrat on this page.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:31 AM
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16. As another who battles disabling medical issues
I would like to echo your sentiments!

:hug:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:36 AM
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17. best to you this wonderful season!
i'm a church goer as well -- and i have NEVER felt persecuted here.
well, not for that.

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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:32 AM
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18. Right on Danny...
tolerance is a virtue of faith. I don't see we have a problem with that, it's a PR campaign - wedge issue.
A DU - :hi:
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Kipling Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:14 AM
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19. Glad to hear it. Well done everyone.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:59 AM
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20. Nicest post and thread I've read all night. Thanks Dan for starting it
Thanks for being here at DU, and thanks for starting this thread of goodwill. :hug:

Bright blessings to all, and to all a good night,

Hekate
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:11 AM
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21. Dan, beautiful post. I wish more people were like you. n/t
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SkiGuy Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:15 AM
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22. OT message for DanCa
Please email me. I would like your opinion/assistance on an email I sent Special Olympics concerning an Ann Coulter column.
kenri621@cox.net
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:21 AM
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23. Hi Skiguy welcome to DU
:hi: I put my DU name in the subject thread in my email Oh my hands arent working today because of the cold so theres going to be lots of typos just fyi.
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SkiGuy Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 09:33 AM
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35. Got it, Dan
you got mail!
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 10:05 AM
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40. okay am signing off for a bit to watch lennon on hbo.
Ill email you around six central.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:26 AM
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24. I've found that most DUers, and most liberals, are not anti-Christian
Edited on Sun Dec-04-05 08:27 AM by mutley_r_us
but rather anti-Christians-who-think-they-are-the-only-ones-who-deserve-life-and-liberty. Just my take on it. ;)

I'm glad you feel welcome here, Dan. :hug: :)
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:34 AM
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26. well honestly there are churches that i've been in that made my skin crawl
And no DU'er has made me feel that way. A freeper maybe but not a true DU'er. Hint if someone uses the term broad brush it's fundie speak and more and likely the poser is on here just to stir the pot.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 09:28 AM
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34. Amen to that.
I rarely feel attacked here like I have in other churches.

Btw, Dan, you rock! I'm sorry you're in pain, and I'm sure it's worse than mine, but someday we'll both get good treatments, eh? We can only hope.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:29 AM
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25. The Problem isn't Christianity...
...it's the way some people choose to practice it. So you are not the problem. The fundies think they are being attacked because they are Christians, but it's not the reason people go after them. They are too extremist. If they stopped this, I think everyone would leave them alone.

Tammy
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:40 AM
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27. Yours is the majority view here....
I am a church goer (and Sunday School teacher, and vestry member - "eek") and I find DU a warm and welcoming place. I don't feel particularly attacked when the "big fluffy man in the sky fairytale" people post. As my grandpa always told me, "Each to his own, said the old lady as she kissed the cow".

The particular genius of the set-up here in America is that it allows for tolerance. That is what is under attack, and we mustn't ever forget it.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:51 AM
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28. Amen!
You are a good man Dan. You have more heart than anyone I've ever had the privilege of communicating with. You don't just talk the talk, you walk the walk. Bless you.
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 09:03 AM
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30. Salaam Brother.
:hug:

The icon says it so much better than I can.

Peace, and Merry Christmas.

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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 09:10 AM
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31. Hey I like your call sign is it from the married with children tv show?
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 09:21 AM
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32. It sure is.
Being "married with children" myself, I could feel for Al Bundy :).

"Who's that riding in the sleigh.
Who's that firing along the way.
Who's got the most popped on christmas day ?

Psy-cho Dad, Psycho Dad, Psycho Dad."

-From the Christmas Special episode of Psycho Dad.

Peace.

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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 09:24 AM
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33. Lol I loved the episode where they went to washington
And the punks fire into the hotel room and officer dan pulls out his pistol and fires back. Great stuff. Oh and Bob Rooneys Taste in Television "hey all that spells TI."
PS do you know where i can get a no mam t shirt?
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 09:35 AM
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36. Found one on a german site.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 09:43 AM
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37. DanCa come join us in the Christian Liberals Prog People of Faith Group
I assure you, you're not the only one:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=291

:hi: And welcome to this wonderful DU community. I can personally attest that there is not a dud among us. ;-)
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 09:46 AM
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39. Thank you for the invite. I'll check it out.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 09:46 AM
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38. May the middle path rise up to meet you....
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Strathos Donating Member (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 10:55 AM
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41. I pray that this wonderful country will become wonderful again
and they'll see that stem cells are not people but ways to make REAL people better.

I sometimes feel that its useless to keep being positive, but then I start feeling positive again.

Peace to you DanCA!

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 11:08 AM
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42. Thanks
An agnostic on your side!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 12:09 PM
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43. and peace be to you, Danny. I love you back.
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