One of the funniest things a Freeptard did was when I was truck driver

It occured in December of 2001 at the Little America Hotel and truck stop in Flagstaff, Arizona.

After paying for fuel and before going to bed for the night, I went into the truck stop to watch a little TV. Now, for those who don't know where Flagstaff is, here is a map of Northern Arizona. Now. click out -1 frame and you will see a large orange area in the upper right corner. That is the Navajo Reservation (Capital, Tuba City). Inside the Navajo reservation is the Hopi Reservation. There is your map. Let's continue.

As I am walking around, looking at all the over priced crap that I didn't need, these two Navajo women were conversing in Navajo, minding their own business. I don't know Navajo (my mother knows Seneca and Tuscarora, being a Tuscarora) so I didn't know what they were saying.

In comes this fat, bearded smelly nasty looking pig of a man. He's wearing a gray shirt with the confederate flag on it with the logo "the South Has Risen Again." He shirt has holes in it, no sleeves and is stained to all hell. It's too small, so we all had the pleasure of seeing his dunlopped stomach hanging under his shirt and over his belt (think about that and eat something). He is hairy all over (gray hair). On his fat arm was a tattoo of the American and Confederate flags.

His hair is long, stringy and greasy. His beard is white with a huge double chin. His jeans hang around his ass crack. He is a disgusting example of manhood. Oh, and he was missing teeth.

Anyway, he fat pig waddles his way around the truck stop until he hears the two Navajo speaking. He bellies up to him, his eyes glued to the two and yells: "Hey, we're in America. If you fucking foreigners can't speak fucking English, shut up or go back to where you came from."

The two Navajo were dumbfounded. They looked like a feather who bowl them over. The fat pig walked away muttering something about 9/11 and "dirty, flithy Mexican trash (I won't use the word he did. However, it starts with an "S" and is half of the name a floor cleaner. The other half is Span)." I walked over and said to them: "Don't worry, not all whites are idiots like that."

Now, you see why I don't deal well with most truck drivers. They are like that. I am college educated going for a Master's Degree. . .but I'm one of those "over-educated liberal America haters" that will "destroy real Americans" with "elitest liberal bullshit."

Any comments? This actually happened!

well described though..I can picture it happening. Sad people.

funny though -- complaining to first nations people about their language.

..jockeys like this ignoramus make all of us drivers seem like
pigs to John Q. Public.

There should be an IQ test along with the CDL test so that idiots like this guy wouldnt be driving a multi-ton vehicle with an IQ in the double digits, endangering the motoring public.

Hopefully he wasn't home long enough to vote for * in either election, becuase these creeps are _always_ RepUGLYcans, IME.

It isn't a job that requires any education, or even any real skill for that matter, so it tends to attract a lot of uneducated people who would be otherwise unemployed. This means that the field is full of dumb, uneducated rednecks, but it's also attractive to recent immigrants (legal and otherwise) who come from countries without formal educational systems. In many ways, it's one of the last refuges for people who wouldn't otherwise survive in "modern" society.

Its easy to claim such things about rig drivers until you do it yourself. And there are many types of work in trucking, not just pulling trailers down the highway.

Try making a blind backup, at night, off a large city street in between parked cars and you will know what I mean. :)

But you are right, there are many dummys working in the trade and many of us wish they were gone.

My uncle owns a trucking company and I spent a good chunk of my college years working for him driving the 7 western states between semesters and on weekends. I still keep my license up, I have my hazmat cert, and on great occasion will still pull a load when I'm really bored or my uncle needs a favor (I'm a college prof nowadays). I just took a load of pumpkins to Las Vegas for him in October after two of his regular drivers refused to pull it because the percentage on the load was too low :)

And I have done a blind pickup, after dark, on a city street, between parked cars before. Figured out 15 miles later that I grabbed the wrong trailer and had to put the goddamn thing back too. It's not that hard, it just takes a little practice.

FWIW, the hardest job I ever did in my life was the three months I worked for a friends dad driving a logging truck. Even that wasn't terribly complex, it was just physically demanding.

It blows me away that many people think all we do is sit in the cab and drive all day long, and generally making thier lifes miserable when they are on the road in thier cars.

Yeap, trucking is hard demanding work, as you know well yourself.

Well, I moved a couple sets across my uncles yard a few times, but that's it...never over the road.

BTW, the worst day of my trucking career was the day that a JB Hunt driver laid his doubles over 100 yards in front of me on I-5. My one and only trucking accident, and it was a doozy...I missed the laid over trailer, but jacknifed and completely crushed the double sleeper. If there'd been anyone back there, they'd have been killed.

Back up a set of turnpike doubles and drop the tail between two trailers on a crowded turnpike pad......then call me when you get done. Go on, I got all night. Really.


One hundred-twelve and a half foot long, 127,500 lbs. Permitted for Ohio and Indiana. Did that for four years.


No skills. Right. I always laugh at that old canard.

:)

of people sitting in offices sneering at truck drivers. I'd like to see one of those office pukes hop in an 18 wheeler and drive the damn thing! It takes years to learn how to drive one. According to them, our class A license aren’t worth much. It cost us thousands of dollars out of our own pocket for our schooling and training. You’d think we would be treated as skilled labor and paid accordingly.

The health benefits, a three thousand dollar a month pension after thirty years, and seventy thousand dollars in wages a year attracted me.
Gee I don't feel stupid. And heck I actually enjoy my job.

i say "was" cause i got green grass syndrome and left the union thinking i could do better as an owner operator.
I got screwed 2 weeks later and i couldn't get back in.
E & L Transport trained me on Open Racks but i had
lots of lift-gate experience before that. Left the
union gig and hauled POV's for 18 months
(FUCKING HATED IT!!) and worked for Fleetcar
for a while, coast to coast with lots of east coast.
Lots of Auction hauls too (Hate them as well)
Last gig i had was with a west coast outfit hauling
mostly Hondas, Nissans, Mitsubishi's, some VW's and
Subarus and occasional other loads mainly in CA,NV,AZ
& UT.
Non-union car haul SUCKS ASS and i kick myself for EVER
leaving the Union.

But.....here's what i am driving now:


And as for the OP'rs story of the asshole in the Little America,
i get asked all the time "How ya'll get a job drivin'
fer NASCAR? (I don't. I drive for a marketing firm
that does work for companies involved in it)
I usually just answer "A little bit of being in the
right place at the right time" But i feel like saying
to dolts like that "There isn't a Race Team manager
in his right mind that would hand over 2 million
dollars worth of race car transporter to a fucking
moron slob like you"

who drove for the WWF I met outside Memphis at the Flying J) are just like you.

And, something else. . .most OTR Driver HATE Unions. I mean, the fucking hate them. And I don't know why.

and they think that paying dues is a ripoff. Fact is, most OTR drivers in this country make less than $20.00 and hour but i and the Union Carhauler above wouldnt get out of bed for less than $200 a day. Most drivers, as you know, Sammy, are paid by the mile and non-union gigs cap out at about .43 cents per mile but they are the rarity. Most drivers are making between 30 and 40 cpm. Teamster carhaulers make around a buck a mile loaded plus per car pay and "Skid drop pay" or additional monies for each stop after the 1st.

Live better, Work Union.

And, unfortunately i am no longer a Teamster. There are no unions in Motor Racing. None.

know a bunch of the same faces. I started at CCI Dearborn. Looks like your doing pretty good for yourself now, and I'm glad, We could us you back draggin chains.
The post had a point there are a lot of slobs out there but I see slobs every where I look not just in the truck stops.

PPO health, vision, dental. I didn't feel stupid working for my company. I felt stupid listening to most of the other dumbass truckers.

I left because my company went chapter 11 and my then wife didn't like me being away for so long. I chose family over money

My father, after serving 30 years in the Marines, retired and drove a big rig for 20 years. While he never finished school, he had tons of experience from his years in the Corps and he received several letters of thanks from people he had helped and he never discriminated on who he would stop and assist on his travels.

As with anything else, I think it's wrong to paint any group or groups of people with a broad brush. After all isn't that what the Repugs do every time they talk down about Liberals or most people in general?

I like to think we as "Liberals" are better than that and that we use our brains and sense of compassion because Lord knows alot of the Repugs don't.

My father retired from Local 100, and my brother is an active member of local 100. My oldest brother was a member until he had his last son which he has to raise himself, so he came off the road.
All 3 of them are intelligent men who have enjoyed being truckers.

I wish truckers could form solidarity for 1 week and shut down.
1 week is all it would take and people would be kissing the ass of these "uneducated rednecks" as you call them.
How do you think everything you own got to the place where you purchased it?
Name it, anything, and you can bet that some trucker spent a lonely night on the road so you can have it.

You owe the truckers on this board an apology.

And you made an inference about a statement that I never made. Truck driving is NOT a job that requires a lot of intelligence. That doesn't mean that intelligent people can't do the job, just that it isn't actually a requirement for most companies.

Most of the truck drivers I've met (and I've met many, am related to several, and am nominally one myself) aren't exactly bright bulbs. I have no problem with that since intelligence is a "shades of gray" type thing, but I do have a problem with the pervalence of redneck racists in the business. Anyone who has ever spent any time driving at all has met them, and can attest to the fact that there are a LOT of them.

What inference would that be?

a 3000 ton vehicle that could turn them into a grease spot in a minute. If that's your idea of intelligence, you need a different resume'.

sheesh

this guy was obviously a bit challenged intellectually, and so many of his ilk are. When you are working with a deficit in that manner it is easiest to latch onto the beliefs of others like you. The hard part is to remember that he is a victim of poverty, himself, and try to understand what leads to his beliefs.

Which doesn't make him any less dangerous.

And THAT's one of the reasons I teach... to stop that in the bud and I know I have many, many times.


TG

... behaving that way! It's not about mental aptitude; it's about the morals of human sewage! It's moral pathology, not mental aptitude.

and sometimes I wonder where their goodness comes from.

Perhaps I should modifiy and say "ignorance"? What do you think of that?

I still regard it as a moral pathology ... sociopathic. We're all "ignorant" - what we don't know dwarfs what we know. Indeed, the more I learn then the more I discover what there is to learn.

I see far more attributable to the unwillingness to comprehend than to any difficulty or inability to understand. Perhaps it can be called "prideful ignorance" - but I regard it as a moral pathology. In my sig, its symptom is called "narrow-mindedness."

given the description of the trucker...

A baby born into poverty with little chance of getting out of it, a culture of anger and intolerance. Did he ever have the opportunity to have the real world presented to him in such a way he could make a choice?

But then there are folks who grew up like that who have moved out of ignorance, too.

Who knows? I'm just glad I don't live next door to him.

He was indoctrinated into assuming that happiness was external. Food "made him happy." (Except it didn't. It's called gluttony.) Things "made him happy." (Except they didn't. It's called greed.) Relaxation "made hiim happy." (Except it didn't. It's called sloth.) Therefore, his unhappiness was ALSO externalized. It's THEIR fault!

If there's anything children with something extra can teach us it is that happiness is something we choose! It comes from inside. It cannot be taken - it can only be given away.

This is the core corruption of our culture, imho. We're indoctinated in this pathology dozens of times each day. "She makes me happy" he'll say. (Heaven forbid he must be forced!) "He makes me happy" she'll say. (It sounds a bit like rape, doesn't it? "He makes me have sex!") "Christmas" is the very pinnacle of this codependent pathology. Presents under the tree make us happy. (If they don't, it's the giver's fault, right?) We unthinkingly interpret the "pursuit of happiness" as chasing it down and killing it. Instead, I regard it like "intellectual pursuits" - the healthy activity of one possessed of the attribute, whether it be 'happiness' or 'intellect.'

"Someday my Prince will come." :puke: :puke: :puke:

and I also wonder where their goodness comes from. Because they all have it in abundance.

:grr: How quickly the white man forgets. Idiots.

Seeing that by them being Native Americans, they are already home.

But, like a most RW nut jobs, they say their peace then cut and run, something they take pride in not doing.

favorites). It's called 'All American Alien Boy' on the album of the same name.

At the ending is a perfect illustration of what you're talking about.

it's got nothing to do with education

As in "That's what happens when people choose not to work." in reference to NOLA. This person had a doctorate! So I opine that Skittles is directly on target!

...When we could hang our feather roach clips on the visor and buy amphetamines anywhere. It really was a tighter 'brotherhood' based on trust and mutual respect that allowed a fellow driver to do whatever it took to keep the truck "between the lines".

Helping each other and fellow motorists was commonplace. Everything was better in the 70's.....

Then came talk radio and truck drivers, who tried to keep up on current events, ended up pretending they were listening to a newscast.

It's unfortunate they lack insight for their own behavior. A lack of insight really has nothing to do with education.

that this happened. I DO however take offense at your comment,

"Now, you see why I don't deal well with most truck drivers. They are like that."

I drove OTR (over the road) for almost 20 years. I have NEVER been like that, and the other drivers I CHOSE to associate with were NEVER like that.

Your generalization of truck drivers is just wrong.

auntAgonist.

There are many truck drivers who are good people, but they are outnumbered by the ignorant and uneducated drivers 5-1, easily. The OP's generalization may not apply to all truck drivers, but certainly the majority of them.

you are wrong.


aA

For someone who say's they're an educator, you are pretty ignora............

they are outnumbered by the ignorant and uneducated drivers 5-1, easily

How dare you make a statement like that! Do you have any idea how many truckers are out there?

The OP's generalization may not apply to all truck drivers, but certainly the majority of them.

Do you generalize about every profession? Or just the ones you know absolutely nothing about?!

People like you really make me angry. You are lucky enough to have had the benefit of a higher education, then you go around and belittle those that didn't have that benefit.

I drove a truck in college, still have my CDL, and still drive now and then for my uncles company (driving trucks is fun when you don't have to do it for the money...and you have a full air-ride tractor).

I've spent far too much time in truckstops to ever beleive that the "redneck truck driver" stereotype is anything but real. Been there, done that, had lunch with the skinheads. I've pulled everything from tomatoes to toilet paper, and I know what the trucking biz is actually like.

You want to have an enlightening evening? Go buy a cheap CB and flip it onto 17 or whatever your local OTR channel is and listen to the conversations. It's 95% dimwitted Republicans whining about "damned libruls", "ayrabs", and "illegals". That's the trucking industry for you. There ARE some nicer spots, mostly in the unionized outfits and the local haulers, but in my experience the majority of truck drivers aren't nice people.

I have nothing against ignorance, because ignorance is simply the result of a missed opportunity to educate. I'm far less forgiving of the blatant racism and bigotry that pervades the industry.

If only these people could ride for a week and see what a driver has to put up with, particularly the wacko car drivers, they might think differently.

Trucking isnt for everyone and thats why there are so many EX drivers out there.

We make them all the time about people we don't like.

Grow some tougher skin.

No where in the constitution does it say that you have the right "not to be offended."

overwieght, racist chump, but what can you do ?

Welcome to the wild world of trucking, where most people hate us for one reason or another. :)

You are right: If you dont have a tough hide, trucking isnt for you.

I had a right winger tell me that ONCE.

I don't think he'll say that again. ;)

No where in the constitution does it say that you have the right "not to be offended."

What, being civil has to be written down somewhere before you observe its existence.?

offensive are two different things.

Do you think this is a civil way to speak to someone?

I drove too. . .you don't like the generalization, tough

Where I come from, that would be considered a smart aleck, disrespectful way to speak to anyone.


People have this idiotic notion that if they have some experience at one thing or another, it gives them the right to lump everything they know about the subject(even though their knowledge is minimal) into one category and express sarcastic criticism.

Some examples really reared their ugly heads under this administration.
Remember freedom fries?
Turns out the french were correct. They're not all asshoiles after all, like some right wingers tried to tell us they ALL were.

Please show me the difference between not being civil, and being offensive. I really am having a hard time seeing this difference you report.

To do that, a person says all: As in "All conservatives are idiots" or "all Republicans are courrupt."

I used the phrase "most," giving some area that "some" aren't what I am saying.

Learn to read a post before going off on one of your little mindless rants. It would help your argument some.

You have no clue what it means to have a "civil" debate.

You and I have never had interaction before and you somehow feel like you can belittle me.

Learn to read a post before going off on one of your little mindless rants.

Do you think you are superior? Do you speak to strangers like that face to face?

I can see that you weren't taught manners as a child.

You sir, are offensive, but that's ok. I proved my point, and you showed you ignorance.

BTW, Happy Holidays :)

Welcome to ignore land, dumbass!

So I guess the "dumbass" moniker belongs to you.

It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant people get into a debate and when they are proven to be wrong, they resort to name calling.

I'm used to it though since I visit a couple of rw discussion boards.

I don't usually get that kind of thing here.

What a moron.

I taught for a month in Chinle for a college education class, and I loved every minute of it--except for the other students from my college and the profs in charge of the class.

It was our Multicultural class, and the profs actually wanted us to pick out "Indian" names (as a game, not after a spirit quest or anything). I refused and tried to explain to everyone just how freakin' racist and crazy that was, and apparently, they never got it. They assigned me a name anyway that I refused to answer to.

I tried to explain about not using the term "Indian" unless given permission, and that didn't work, either.

Honestly, it was a horrible month from the free-time and required class time point of view, but I loved the students and the time I got to teach. It was one of the best times for teaching I had in college.

We're all the immigrant/foreigners.

My father is a truck driver. He's a regular ditto-head. Long hours spent in a vehicle with only rabid hate-mongers telling you that everyone is out to get you i think can drive a person insane after a while.

That said, I'd love to be a truck driver. Getting to see the beautiful scenery of the country every day, and not being confined to an office must be wonderful. I get to travel enough in my job that it's fairly similar except that my vehicle isn't as big. Just make sure to bring along a lot of cd's because there's many areas where all you can pick up is hate-mongering and jesus stations.

That most of the idiots you see saying that in America, so and so should speak English, can't speak English themselves. If what he says above is a direct quote, there's my case.

I've had a couple run-ins with truckers. Once while driving on a state road in Northern Ohio a truck driver started to turn in front of our van at an intersection. At that point he didn't have the right of way so we had to stop. He stopped his truck in front of us and did a Sieg Heil salute. We sat there for maybe 10 secs looking at him. I'm not really sure what he planned to do. A van with 15 people vs 1 truck driver not a smart move. He finally moved and we went about our business.

Another time on another trip we stopped in a Mountain area in I believe Virginia. I went into a truck stop alone ahead of my family. I was around 12 at the time. I looked around for a moment and a guy that looked like one of the Clampits came up next to me. Speaking in a thick drawl the only thing I could understand was "We gonna start some fires on the hills." Something else about "your kind.." with other incoherent babbles as my 6'2 dad walks in the door. Behind him followed about 8 other people who went on the trip with us. The guy quickly walked away.

that guy would be working in a Hungarian coal mine...
or something.

All socioeconomic classes, all forms of employment and all styles of dress and grooming. Wearing an Armani and having a PhD doesn't make anyone less likely to spew right-wing rhetoric than having a G.E.D. and driving a dump truck.

and I can relate to you on so many levels, bro. 10-4. :D

I've been driving since 93 (with a break to lose 16K to a computer school, but that's another story).
I was in Alabama, driving a flatbed for a over the road outfit, and started talking to a couple of guys at a real small truck stop.
They were convinced that the U.N. was preparing to invade the U.S. and that black helicopters were flying all over the place.
I tried and tried to reason with them, to no avail.
I know about blind side backing, in the city...I know about stupid drivers...I also know that this is pretty good work.
If you can deal with the delusional.
A guy I work with is a Teamster and he voted repug because he was convinced his guns would be taking away.
I told him that they were using scare tactics and that there were WAYY to many guns out there to take.
I am currently working for a driver lease outfit, get paid hourly, and am home every night.
I am going to try and get a frito-lay job that will just about double my salary...wish me luck.

and quite frankly, I haven't met too many who aren't bigoted in one way or another. See, I have a theory about some truckers, that is that they are too damn lazy to actually get a job where they have to actually do some physical labor, so they just want to drive all day and all night. That being said, it's a good thing we have trucks in America. Goods need to be moved from one place to another somehow and trucks are certainly the way to do it, at least partially.
I am not college educated, just a working stiff who is trying to make it in the world. And truckers are too, except, like I said, a lot of them probably either can't or won't find other jobs which require work. One more thing, a lot of them I deal with are always in a hurry. Now these guys have dedicated routes and do not get paid by the mile, so they need to relax and take it easy. In fact, one guy pissed me off so bad that I deliberately waited to load him, just so I could upset him more. Now he waits his turn and says nothing.

wheel.

and a restaurant we were in refused to serve some native americans... threw them out, in fact ... this was probably 69', 70', maybe 71' or 72' ...:-(

I seem to recall a Native American getting flour poured on his head ... :shrug:

"Guy told me to go back where I came from... so I camped out in his living room."

How rude to the NATIVE Americans!! Ignorant! And this guy clearly doesn't know his history of America if he has a US flag next to the Confederate flag. The US flag was the flag of the Yankee's while the Confderate flag fr the south and they didn't consider themselves apart of the same country since they conceded.