Is the pentagon covering up US military deaths?

US military says video not of deadly Iraq ambush

Sun Dec 4, 3:53 AM ET

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The U.S. military said on Sunday that a video which Iraqi militants claimed showed an attack that killed 10 Marines near Falluja was not the same incident.

"The circumstances of the IED (improvised explosive device) attack near Falluja do not match those shown on the video," the Marines said in a statement.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051204/ts_nm/iraq_falluja_dc_1


Then what video is it then? How many died in it?

These clips below are not bloody but they are brutal.

The al-Jazeera video IS ONLINE - the one that the Pentagon is denying is the correct version of the event.

http://media.putfile.com/Bareknucklepoliticscom-IED-Kills-10-US-Soldiers-In-Fallujah

So it's not the video of the Fallujah attack. Where did this come from and when and how did it happen. How many US soldiers died here?

And below... Is this another deadly video which has 'not' been talked about by the Pentagon either? In this one they use two bombs - one for the original victims and the other for the rescuers.

http://www.flurl.com/uploaded/IED2_9422.html

How much are they covering up?

Watch as these videos get 'dissappeared' off the net. I doubt they will last long.

Nevertheless, I can't help but notice that they've lied about everthing else if they think there's an advantage to be gained from it. I see more reason to believe that they're still lying, than to believe that they've suddenly decided to tell the truth.

Just don't expect many people to agree with you.

Here?

I think many DU'ers are cognizant that the Pentagon has done nothing but lie, when they can get away with it. Fallujah for example. They went from, "We did NOT use Phosphorus incindiary weapons", to "We used them for illumination only", to "We used them to get terrorists out of their spiderholes and no did not target civilian".

So I am prepared for some analysis from DU'ers if anything. That's what I 'expect' will be the response.

First, Why Not:

"There's a List of the dead. If anyone was killed and not put on The List, their families or fellow soldiers would scream to high heaven."




Then the Why they could lie:

"They lie when they think they can get away with it. For example, some soldiers come from broken, almost non-existent families. Why would the pentagon report these deaths? As for their fellow soldiers, if they classify the information, who's going to risk complaining about that?"

Lots of people with a conspiracy theory turn of mind like to thing that the military is hiding casualties to keep the public number low. But such CTists fail to come up with a single person who is a "hidden casualty". Each serviceman has family and friends in the states that would ask why they suddenly aren't getting mail from him.

It is simply impossible for the military to get away with a lie about casualties, therefore the reports of the numbers are truthful.

If you think that the military is actually hiding casualties, then you have an easy way to prove it - provide a name of a person killed who is not on the list. The list is not maintained by the military, but by various peace organizations, so it includes the ones who die later of their wounds.

William Pitt wrote the Military to ask how and why 130 new deaths appeared on the 'list' - in one day.

Let's talk about what is the actual definition of a 'military casualty in Iraq' is as well. Because they are shuffling some losses to 'other' lists apparently.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5467521

the numbers during Vietnam, too?

The following is a list of U.S. Fatalities who have died in hospitals in Germany and The United States. Some have claimed that The Department of Defense does not report these deaths, they are obviously mistaken.
Note: these deaths are included in our overall totals.

http://icasualties.org/oif/Dow.aspx

I can understand why the DOD does not want these videos to see the light of day - but I am also surprised that they did not make news. Because it's pretty clear that there were a number of fatalities in both cases... in both vidoes which are not connected to the latest one from Fallujah.

If so... why is this one suddenly making news? Sheer numbers? Location in Fallujah? Timing?