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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 10:02 AM
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This latest Christmas flak...
It's just another wedge issue. A rather disgusting one, IMO.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 10:03 AM
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1. I think it is completely artificial
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 10:04 AM
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2. I'm not sure it is another wedge issue. Many do not seem to be
biting. I look at it more as how irrelevant the press has truly become.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 10:37 AM
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9. A wedge issue? In what way?
Edited on Sun Dec-04-05 10:38 AM by Canuckistanian
Liberals and progressives almost universally just don't give a shit about this "issue".

In fact, we should should come out pro-Christmas, just to piss them off.
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 10:07 AM
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3. Read this - from "The Consercative Voice" Website, this guy gets it.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 10:08 AM
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4. me too
it's suppose to be a season that celebrates the spirit, love, peace and also a time of reflection

the holidays around this time of year encompasses many religions, beliefs and traditions - which should be encouraging respect and understanding

if the commercialization of the season is troublesome - this "celebrate-it-OUR-way" crap has ruined it completely
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 10:09 AM
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5. You have to wonder what their strategy is here.
Obviously the 'libruls killed xmas' offensive is yet another planned propaganda campaign. Thus it is deliberate, not just some idiocy randomly spewed by dild o-liely. So what is their game here? Like the idiotic schiavo campaign, they seem to be interested in promoting overt theocracy - stirring up the dominionist fundies, pumping them full of venom and bile against the damn libruls. To what end? I'm not liking the implications at all.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:24 PM
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12. It's O'Liely's agenda
and it's all about TV ratings and making $$$. That is all. I don't believe it is any kind of orchestrated attack.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:37 PM
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14. I don't think Dild does anything on his own.
And it isn't just him. The 'libruls killed xmas' meme is not just coming from the dild o'liely show.

But you could be right.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 10:11 AM
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6. Disinformation. And yet the sheeple can't even figure out the obvious:
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 10:14 AM
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7. Maybe this is the next issues for '08 - Dems want to take XMAS away...
Given that the whole terror thing is out od steam, and they can't run on their record, this is the new issue for '08.

We have to start it now, so that it is a big deal by '08
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Chautauqua Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:29 PM
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13. Close but look closer in
It's about the Congressionals in 2006.

Loonie Tunes issues like this tend to work more effectively on the local level and they know that the polls show that unless something changes the RNC will lose the House. And, if they lose the House they're looking at investigations and impeachment in 2007.
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JoZbean Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 10:36 AM
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8. I tell one Freeper Father
that if he wants to insist it's "CHRISTmas" across the board, then Jesus is responsible for killing Santa Claus. Of course, this doesn't sit well with him, since he supposedly has little kids.

Each time he insists that it be "CHRISTmas" only then I just repeat, "then Jesus killed Santa."

He can't argue with that much. Only asks why I hate little kids. Typical, when they have nothing else. I told him it wasn't me that hated little kids. If he wanted to make it all about Christ then he and his ilk are the ones responsible for killing off Santa for the kiddies.

Of course, this only works with those who want to rally around the Santa myth for their kids.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 11:15 AM
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10. they started last year, didnt get momentum. started nice and early
wide spread and well ochrestrated this year. it is a plan. they take christianity, america, the flag, family values and now christmas and say it is repug. not dem. we cant allow it. that is why all the anti christmas threads this year is not productive. further i feel, last year we did not have all those anti christmas threads, so feels like many on this board are jumping onto this trick, exactly giving repug what they want. the battle that isnt
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:21 PM
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11. The Anti-Christians...
need to be exposed as such before this can get going much farther.
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