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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:59 PM
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Are you ashamed to be an American ??
Are you ashamed that the present leaders present torture as acceptable in some conditions? Are you ashamed that we now have over 2100 troops killed because of intentional lies? Are you ashamed that the world no longer looks at us at the beacon of liberty and hope? Are you ashamed that we have lost everything we have stood for as America?
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sweettater Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:01 PM
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1. yes
:cry:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:02 PM
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2. No. I am not ashamed to be an American.
I am ashamed that half of this nation considered Bush electable. I was not one of those. Therefore, I have nothing--as an American--for which to be ashamed.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:29 PM
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35. No, I am not ashamed
I regret that these things have happened but I am proud that my country keeps trying and I am proud that the neocons ARE NOT UNOPPOSED.

I still feel we are a restless, intelligent people and our best days are ahead of us.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:03 PM
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3. No...but sometimes...
I am ashamed of some of the things we do...but in general I am not ashamed
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:04 PM
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4. No, I'm not ashamed!
I'm angry as hell that these fascists have taken over while our so called democrat leaders stand by watching (for the most part)

I want the world to know that at least 49% of America doesn't support Bozo * (probably a hell of a lot more given the 37% approval rating recently reported on one of the polls, and that's just people with land lines!)

I am not ashamed because we will regain our status.

I am ashamed of our leaders, the press, and those in power who have no remorse.

I am not ashamed of my country!
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:08 PM
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12. Well said. n/t
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:24 PM
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41. The majority of the American people DID NOT vote for Bush in 04.
I don't care what the so-called actual vote was, that is, the vote that was tabulated and recorded on electronic voting machines (which counted about 85% of the vote).

The exit polls are a much better indication of real American sentiment then and now, and they indicated that Kerrry won the vote in OH and the vote nation-wide by about 3% or 5M votes.

Once we have a democracy again, the true nature of the majority of the American people will become apparent to all.

The American people aren't stupid; they're just disenfranchised at the moment.

If we should be ashamed of anything, it's that we have allowed private corporations to continue to count the votes without any auditing and without access to the source code. That's what is deplorable. This illegitimate government doesn't represent the American people.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:04 PM
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5. No
I didn't vote for these so called leaders

I never supported the Iraq war

I am not convinced that the world sees us as a beacon of liberty and hope

I don't believe we have lost everything America has stood for
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:04 PM
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6. I'm not ashamed. I didn't vote for the freak nor did I believe his lies.
I am, however, in a never-ending state of anger at what bush and his network and his supporters have done to America. I was just thinking earlier today that maybe I should move to Italy and get citizenship there (my mother is Italian), and renounce my American citizenship.

It's almost too much to bear sometimes.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:05 PM
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7. Yes, because although I know that all Americans aren't
greedy, bloodthirsty assholes, the rest of the world does consider all of us to be such jerks because of the actions of those few who really should be in prison serving time, all of them.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:05 PM
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8. A year in Europe and one in Texas convinced me--Yes, very ashamed!!
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:06 PM
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9. Yes and a Christian. I'm angry cuz I feel I let the fuckers take my
culture and nationality and pour liquid shit all over it.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:06 PM
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10. No. n/t
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:07 PM
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11. No, not in the least.
America is not George Bush although he has support here. Just like all arabs are not Bin Laden and suicide bombers.
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prescole Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:08 PM
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13. Temporarily, yes I'm ashamed. At least until 2006, maybe 2008.
Our reputation and influence have been squandered by a man who actually thinks he's God's Warrior--as if God would condone torture.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:08 PM
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14. Absolutely Not
I am ashashed of our Goverment's policies though.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:09 PM
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15. Yes
America has embraced greed as a value and has shown that it is willing to let torture, attacks with chemical weapons and a bogus war slip by.
Our capitalist outreach is deplorable as well.
Currently our national identity totally sucks.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:11 PM
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16. I'm not ashamed
I'm with Bill Maher on this one - I'm embarrassed

Mz Pip
:dem:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:11 PM
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17. yes n/t
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:11 PM
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18. Apologetic, not ashamed
I feel like, when people ask as to my nationality, that i must explain
that bush and his gang are criminals that i've known about for some time
now, that anyone who was aware, could see were arranging to take over
the US government with a right wing psycho adgenda. I encourage people
to speak up against criminal government, and encourage people to tell
the leaders of their own countries to break off cooperation with the
United States until free and fair elections are held.

I've withheld filing my taxes until bush is out of office. I've had it
with that son of a bitch, and i refuse to cooperate... my private
boston tea party, i tossed the 2004 tax forms in to the fire. I don't
support or finance criminal 1-party totalitarian usurpers. Fuck bush
and his tribe, may they leave their bodies unburied after they die,
so we can enjoy watching the motherfuckers rot.

My blue blood is fucking boiling, ashamed, hardly... livid.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:12 PM
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19. I am not ashamed
of being the American I am, but I am very ashamed to live in a country that allows Bush to be called "President" in 2000 and then allowed it to happen again in '04. I am ashamed of the social regression that has taken place since 1980.

I am proud to be a member of DU.

I am proud to be angry at the "1984" world we are living in.

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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:14 PM
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20. Embarrassed maybe
But not ashamed
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:15 PM
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21. Hell, no. - not a chance. And never. It's been highjacked. C'mon.
Lincoln, Jefferson, MLK, Eleanor Roosevelt, Edison, on and on. No way. Ever.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:16 PM
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22. No. I have nothing to be ashamed of.
I wasn't one who voted for Bush, I wasn't one who supported the war, ect. I am a good person, as are a good number of americans. With the amount of lies that were believed before the elections, I think it's safe to say that more than half of america is made up of good people, just far too many naive or uninformed ones.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:43 PM
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56. Right. I'm not ashamed, I haven't done anything wrong.
Edited on Sun Dec-04-05 08:45 PM by Protagoras
I am, however, embarassed for and ashamed of many others in this fair land of ours.

But I didn't vote for chimpy, or support his war. My conscience is clean.

Proud of who I am. Embarassed about what some of my dumbass countrypeople have done.

Then again I tend to place "American" way down on my list of things I view myself as...I think of my profession, my role as a husband, my role in my family, heck even my state (Oregonian) first...if you ask me if I'm "AN AMERICAN" I think and say "er...yeah". But if you say..."WHAT ARE YOU?" Then you'll get a lot of other things. I have more to me than my nationalism thank you very much.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:52 AM
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62. I was thinking about moving off to that side of the country
after I visited my sister in Portland a couple years back... nice area. :)
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:17 PM
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23. ...
deeply.
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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:17 PM
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24. Not ashamed. I didn't create this steaming pile o' crap. I'm
appalled and disgusted and sickened by those who are turning my/your/our country into a less than third world country.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:20 PM
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25. Why the hell should I be ashamed?
I'm not one of the men who took this country of ours and slammed it into the ground at full speed. I'm not the one who wages class warfare by stomping on the face of the working man. I'm not an influence-peddler on Capitol Hill buying and selling the votes and souls of politicians. I'm not dominated by power-lust and greed. I'm not sending off thousands of people to die for my bottom line. I'm not the one who judges homosexuals, liberals, unionists, pagans, atheists, agnostics, and a whole host of others as being less than deserving of the same treatment as every human being deserves. Nevermind the issue of whether they are worthy of being put to death.

I'm not the one who sucks here.
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InaneAnanity Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:21 PM
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26. Yup
And if these tyrannical piles of dogshit continue to brainwash the dumb and win elections, I'm moving to Canada. Or Europe.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:22 PM
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27. I'm ashamed of my government- and the actions it takes claiming
the moral high ground. But I'm not ashamed of the people who are what america really is- I'm ashamed of things i didn't speak out about because i was oblivious to their happening- Iran/Contra, covert actions taken against other nations to benefit us- (supposedly).
I'm ashamed we have so much, and complain about petty things, when people in this world starve to death- or die wanting a fraction of what we have.

I'm ashamed we've come to see ourselves as 'entitled' to anything above any other nation in the world, and that we feel justified in telling others they can't have weapons that we not only have, but continue to produce-

But on the whole- as individuals, i believe most people that share this nation, are as disturbed as i am about all that is being done- They just pretend not to be, because that is easier than facing the rage, and often times futility of 'knowing' we are not the fountain of 'virtue' we make ourselves out to be.

The most bizarre, and loud, and extreem voices are usually the ones that people base their view of a 'group' on- not always representative of the majority- actually if majority ruled here, * wouldn't be in the picture at all- and we would not be torturing, killing and dying for lies- and walking around with our chest puffed out.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:24 PM
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28. No cause I didn't choose to be an American
I am highly ashamed of what my government is doing though.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:24 PM
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29. Perhaps I should have asked....
If you were a Republican, would you be ashamed to be an American? I would be ashamed if I voted for George W Bush....
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:28 PM
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32. No, Kentuck. You asked the question right because I don't
think any of us can get into the mind of a Republican. Confronting the scrambled logic would make one's head explode.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:25 PM
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30. No-I am ashamed of the actions of some of my fellow citizens
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:27 PM
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31. No..
... I didn't vote for these clowns.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:29 PM
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33. No so much ashamed as outraged
I can no longer brag about being an American, though. And I am a little scared of what will happen to America as long as Bush and crew are in charge.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:29 PM
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34. FUCK NO! I am ashamed at the actions of a few in our government. But we
are still the best country on the planet and I'm damn proud to be here.

Want an analogy? Ok. If you buy the best high performance sports car available and let an inexperienced schmuck drive it and they keep spinning it out, losing control and crackin it up, it is still the best high performance sports car available but is just being driven by an incompetent driver.
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RedOnce Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:34 PM
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36. No, but I am ashamed of what our government has been doing...
in our name.

This is not the country I grew up in. I am ashamed to pass it on to our children in this condition.

It came apart on our watch. I believe we have an obligation to put it back together.

Share the truth with those who will listen.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:34 PM
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37. I have been ashamed of our criminal government since January 2001.
To this day, every day's newspaper brings another slap in the face as I read of yet more incompetence, corruption, and dishonesty from this foul group of criminals. In my opinion, our vile vice president is the worst of a very bad bunch. This will sound silly, but I begin each day by picking up the newspaper on my front porch praying that the headline reads CHENEY DEAD. But, it never does.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:35 PM
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38. Ashamed of the morons who did this to us
Not of the whole country, no.
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ryan_cats Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:35 PM
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39. I'm not ashamed to be an American
I'm not ashamed to be an American.

I am ashamed at out current leaders on the right side of the aisle and a few on the left (Lieberman).

I am ashamed at our Executive branch second only for the shame I feel for people voting for the worthless t*rds.

2008 can't come soon enough. It look like it's going to be Hillary. Much as people seem to dislike her, you have to think of the positive part of her winning, Bill J. Clinton!!!! It will be awesome to have him a co-president again. The big dog rocks!! Peace and prosperity again, what a wonderful concept. I will, however, vote for whomever has a 'D' after their name in the main election. Even if it's Lieberman. The world can't afford another 'R' win period!

2006 looks to be shaping up nicely as well. Taking back the house and the Senate is our #1 priority! I think that by 2006, most Americans will see what a cluster f**k scrub-ya and his co-conspirators have wrought.

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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:39 PM
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40. No, but I am upset when
People associate me with those who call themselves Americans, yet dismiss our values altogether.
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SkiGuy Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:24 PM
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42. Not if it was governed correctly
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:48 PM
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43. No, I'm not ashamed
I'm embarrased, angry & sad at what is being done by the "leaders" of my country though.

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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:51 PM
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44. no
neither am I proud

I am not a nationalist.

I am a citizen of the world.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:57 PM
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45. I've felt ashamed to be American
Edited on Sun Dec-04-05 07:57 PM by Karenina
since seeing the now famous Life Magazine photo of the napalmed child running naked in pain. St. Ronnie compounded it by casting our mentally ill into the streets. I bailed after *Poppy and watched from afar
horrorified at what came after...

America is the Bill Bennett of the world.
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Dances with Cats Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:58 PM
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46. I don't remove my hat
when the National Anthem is played....
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 07:58 PM
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47. yes, and i'm not ashamed to admit it.
if you ain't ashamed, you ain't paying attention.
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Dances with Cats Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:10 PM
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49. I heard that you are....
quite the musician. Where ya from (if that ain't prying)?
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:23 PM
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51. k.c. mo., and not ashamed to admit it
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Dances with Cats Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:26 PM
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52. I hear that....
I've only passed through K.C. flying along I-435 or whatever it is when travelling between Oregon and Alabama.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:04 PM
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48. yes
I was in Korea recently and I felt embarrassed that I was American. I didn't care that I stuck out, I just wished they would think I was from somewhere else. Hell, even at the international terminals in LAX I felt embarrassed to be American.

The behavior of a few soldiers (just a select few) did nothing to help that and made me ashamed to be married to a soldier (although he is as anti-war, anti-violence, anti-acting-like-a-cocky-asshole as you can get).
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:11 PM
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50. Am I ashamed to be an American? No...
Am I ashamed of what the USG does in my name? Yes. But this is nothing new, really. Think Nicaragua, or Panama, or Grenada, or Haiti, or East Timor -- there is just about no place left in the non-First World that hasn't been terrorized by USG threat or force.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:27 PM
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53. No
I'm ashamed of this new country they've invented. I'm certainly not living in the America I knew.
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eek MD Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:27 PM
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54. I'm ashamed at our image around the world....
But not ashamed to live where I live. In fact, i consider myself fortunate to live here...
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lse7581011 Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 08:35 PM
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55. Yes, and
have been ever since W's first election!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 09:06 PM
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57. No not ashamed but
embarassed because of the greedy idiots that represent us. :-(
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 10:03 PM
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58. No Shame......just waking up...
to a long history of dirty deeds that have led us to the present day.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 11:41 PM
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59. I'm ashamed Bush is an American
and the rest of his Nazi pals.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:21 AM
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60. Never!
They'll have to kill this country before I let it go.

I am ashamed about those other things though.
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 12:29 AM
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61. NO!! I am ashamed, though ,of the choices of many of our fellow Americans
I did not vote this horrible group of slime into office. i am shocked that so many people were railroaded into supporting these slime buckets. Ruling by fear is something I did not think we would see in this Country
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:29 AM
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63. Not ashamed to be an American
But am ashamed of what our "leaders" are doing to our country and the world.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:30 AM
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64. Not ashamed to be an American
But am ashamed of what our "leaders" are doing to our country and the world.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 04:42 AM
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65. I'm ashamed on behalf of my family and red county, who should be ashamed
and are not.

Today's bumper sticker sighting: "For our country, For our children, VOTE REPUBLICAN."
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foreverdem Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:00 AM
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66. No, I'm not ashamed
I am ashamed of my leaders and some of the actions of my fellow citizens, but I am not ashamed to be an American.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:01 AM
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67. In current context, yes.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:20 AM
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68. Yes. History, read it and weep.
The current ugliness is but a spike in Business As Usual. More dangerous for us as our relative strength is waning and the proliferation of technology levels the field despite the gee wiz capabilities of our military. From the genocide of Native Americans and the wasting of the land to slavery to the Mexican War to the Phillipine Insurrection to Vietnam to Raygun's war against the people of Central America there's a lot to be ashamed of. Not that others have not done as bad and worse but this is us. American exceptionalism is such a crock of shit....

Maybe I read too much history.
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69. No not ashamed to be an American, but disgusted and ashamed of Bush Admin
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