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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:39 AM
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Scott Ritter givin' em hell
Edited on Mon Dec-05-05 08:03 AM by Montauk6
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WARNING! If you cannot fathom any criticism of the Clinton Administration, you'll want to bypass this.


Scott Ritter Speaks Out Against Wars on Iraq and Iran


Direct audio: http://www.mirror1.jagflyhosting.com/traprock/ritter_talk_17nov05.mp3

Website link: http://www.traprockpeace.org/scott_ritter_17nov05.html


Excerpt:

In defense of Bill Clinton, and I don’t often speak in defense of Bill Clinton, but, in defense of Bill Clinton, he inherited a problem. You see, the Iraq problem wasn’t something that Bill Clinton made up. When he came into office in 1993, we already had an Iraq policy in place, the Iraq policy of George Herbert Walker Bush, Papa Bush. You know, the big Bush as opposed to the Shrub. And Papa Bush had a policy that, in itself, was a reactive policy on Iraq. See, this is one of the problems that we face, not just in terms of foreign policy, but I’ll tell you it’s a problem we face as an anti-war movement, and I call myself part of the anti-war movement even though I’m not a pacifist. I’m anti-war, and I’ve been to war. I know what war is about. War is the most horrible thing mankind can inflict on mankind because war is only about man killing man. There’s nothing else. That’s what it does. What happens when you go to war? I’m anti-war, and here we are reacting. Where’s the proactive thought in the peace movement? We’re reacting. Bush does this; let’s have a demonstration against what Bush does. Congress does this; let’s have a demonstration against what congress does. Well, what the hell do we stand for? I know what we’re against, but what do we stand for? Where’s our proactive policy? But this isn’t just a problem of the peace movement. It’s a problem of the United States. This is how we got into Iraq to begin with, because we’re reacting.

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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:03 AM
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1. You take peace activism a level deeper.
You fight for bills to pass that create the foundation of a policy that ensures peace. I am not a lawyer, I wouldn't know where to begin. I am sure there are laws that need to be ammended at best, but I'm really talking of new laws.

For example. You make human compassion and kindness a required part of the health education program in the schools. It HAS to start with the children, that within the blink of an eye, will be the next generation of adults. You make a requirement for high school graduation, two years at least, community service for the elderly, the disabled, those in need.

I guess we can go from there.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:17 AM
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2. Dennis Kucinich says "Department. of Peace"
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