Don't eat that

Ok I have to say something here..Some of you might not like it.

Our world is totally contaminated.

Our foods _all of them_ have toxins in them on them ,even the organics,are contaminated because the soil is contaminated,the water. Organic veggies have antibiotics in them,how do you think it got there?Fertilizer from cows with growth hormones and antibiotics produces plants with them.Even if the farmer gets organic raised cow poop for his garden farms upstream have runoff and that runoff waters the fields,the rain waters the fields, the rain full of chemicals.
The food containers,air ,water all these are infused with chemicals and pollutants and they are inside us too.We have a "chemical load" before we are even born. None of us are"pure" and chemical free.


You can try to eliminate some of the toxins from your life but its futile.For poor folks it's almost impossible.Stress kills,bad food,sugar,sucralose,mercury in vaccines,we are seeing three headed toads and other animal mutations,fish are changing sex,I know the wild animals eat organic foods and don't shop at supermarkets or drink coke yet they are mutating. What happens to them is going to be happening to us. Why do we hear so much about the occasional siamese twin separations in the media? Could they be Softening us up to a future with mutant kids?Mutant kids are profitable futures for companies you know. All those health problems and desperate parents willing to do pay anything to save their poor suffering baby..
($$Ka Ching!!$$)

We have detectable levels of VALIUM and Amphetamines in our drinking water now..Think about it. It's ghastly and inescapable.

Teflon plastic containers organic veggies,stay away from meat(mad cow bird flu etc.) buy an air purifier, don't eat fish,don't eat HFCS,don't eat sugar aspartame or splenda,theirs lead in crayons,PCB's,out gassing carpets,allergens,don't eat non organic fruits,don't eat, don't use ,don't, don't,don't,don't.....

Eventually people will have to realize every thing's contaminated.EVERYTHING. There is no avoiding having to exist in a polluted,overtaxed, sick, dying world and feeling the effects of countless people's wastes and unrestrained "progress",consuming and stress.You can't stop it no more than you can stop a tidal wave by holding your hands up and bracing yourself people.

We are all going to die. If not from old age,it will be from something else.The animals will die..because they live with us.In this polluted world.

For me the answer is to not fret every waking moment over what I eat or don't eat, as for"food safety" and that in this age is a relative term..be reasonable but not phobic..I will die. My quality of life will go downhill ,because of decay,entropy and dissolution is the pattern of what life over time becomes in this world.

I can preoccupy myself endlessly questioning which additives,allergens, foods or chemicals hurt me the most? Avoid them.
Find out what hurts you the most avoid that. When it changes avoid the new irritants.It's endless paranoia for you and endless profits for certain markets.Remember the story of the company that made carcinogenic chemicals in pesticides that also made cancer medicines?

Eventually there will be no refuge on Earth that is contaminant free ,no escape from this pollution.. For we all have to eat,breathe,drink and exist until our time is up...

Please wake up,the world is dying and it is far past the time to save it.

My sister is vegetarian,she seeks out only organic cotton clothes she is a clean living advocate out the wa-zoo she does not use ketchup.She tells me chemical and contamination nightmares that would make the organic crowd on DU want to go live in a bubble suit and never eat again. She is a safety officer who inspects food,restaurants and other products for the state's requirements for safety.She is scared shit-less about all this and stressed out accordingly. She is killing her health with the stress of trying to stay healthy in a world in obvious decline.She is fighting a good fight and still she is dying.

The chemicals are everywhere. All of them are toxic one way or another to the living. We all exist in a chemical and contaminant stew. Every year something like 50,000 new chemicals are OKed for chemical companies to manufacture and spew into this world.Most people never know what they are or can do to living beings long term or short term and how it will effect the already chemically infused environment,not even the people who make the shit and sell it know this sometimes.Labs are not like real life conditions really.

Genetically modified foods will proliferate whether we want it to or not.Companies can slip in genetically modified food or pollen in the environment and lie about it and no one would be the wiser until the crops won't grow..by than it's too late you have to buy seed from Montsano or go without. Even eventually when someone complains they ate an apple that makes them sick,there will be no way to prove it indisputably really because the corporate pigs can point out there's already be a ton of aggravating allergens and contaminants in every home,every corner of the Earth to blame it on.

The suit will be moot with the new tort reform.Too costly to tease the person's reaction from the environment and isolate the offending apple from the lead,mercury,PCB's and whatnot already making them sick, to prove it was the apple by itself. We all carry a chemical load most people have over 100 detectable levels of industrial chemicals inside us right now.In our blood. In our lungs in our flesh.

Even if we stopped the chemical companies overnight shut them all down stopped driving,eating and voluntarily went back to stone age living or just killed ourselves off it would not stop the slow death of this world. The damage has been done.The damage comes from beyond us,and it uses us.

And a worldwide flood and ice age will not erase the damage.Some of these contaminants have shelf lives for THOUSANDS of years.Some the chemical companies don't know when or how or even if they"breakdown". Never before on this world has the air,land and sea been so filled with unnatural contaminants in Earth's history. This is how a world ends...death by chemical excess and terminal madness..
Hug your kids (if you have them)or your pets and realize there is no going back to the way things were this is the beginning of the end.
What comes next? I dunno but I guess we will find out when we find out.We are not in control,we never were.We just like to pretend we are.Time to stop pretending.

I'm going to die sometime.

take a valium/have some scotch/eat a juicy burger/smoke a cigarette
enjoy

Sweet dreams!

I used to be a member of the Green party because of my concerns about the environment, but this post points out one of the faults I've found with environmentalism...

The smarter environmentalists and other Green types I've talked with before have warned against me using this sort of scare tactic on people I want to convert; if you want people to work for change, the LAST thing you want to do is make people think the situation is too big to solve. This is why a lot of people have turned against the environmental movement: the feeling of uselessness against such an insurmountable problem.

The sky is falling, and it WILL fall no matter WHAT you do is indeed, a recipe for encouraging everyone to say "Ah, fuck it!" and give up.

If everyone does one thing, or two things, or changes their habits a bit at a time, we can eventually reach critical mass. More flies with honey, I say!!!

Everyone once thought catalytic converters on automobiles was just an impossible goal, too difficult, too expensive, too this, that or the other thing. Now try to buy a car without one!

As much as we can? Stop eating organics because we're going to be poisoned anyway? Thanks for the heapin' helpin' of negativity friend, but I'm going to keep on fighting, thank you very much. Yes, you are correct, there is no way that mankind can completely protect ourselves from chemical exposure, but you can certainly minimize your exposure, and thus minimize the effects chemicals have on you.

Keep fighting if you choose to.I don't care what you do.
For me.. I find survival futile.I will not live forever,
I can accept that.

I am not master of reality.The world is contaminated.
and I can accept that too.

I can do what I can do nothing more.I refuse to stress out over the shit I have no control over.

And there comes a time when all you can do is not enough and it will not change reality.
Some people can accept this others don't.
Good luck in your fight.

Oh and BTW breathing air can hurt you just as bad as a big mac.
Pick your poison.They all make you suffer.

you have the right idea. Don't stress over it. Nothing is pure and I guess in some ways never has been. Even back centuries ago they worried more about bacteria than we do. And 3/4 of Europe went out with the Black Death.

I heard on TV that breast cancer is linked to women shaving under their arms and using deodorant. Great. Now I have to have hairy pits and BO. Well, I figure the damage is done. From this point on it is patch, patch, patch.

I wouldn't want to survive forever, anyway. But I hope whatever comes next is nice and clean!

Don't let the bastards get you down. I'm as cynical as they get but you have to draw the line somewhere. Just focus on living as healthily and as happily as you can (and get the distilled Omega 3s, they take out most of the heavy metals)

If not..well it's saving your own ass fuck the rest,just like the corporations do.
Offer advice but no help.The endless fount of human compassion comes from the mouth in the form of words it never seems to make it's way in material or tangible forms to the most desperate of us for some reason..

Some people cannot afford a billon suppliments what about them if they are not rich why should they suffer? Don't you care about them too? Or is it save yourself fuck the rest? I'm just raising the question here.

Also remember fish has contaminants in it too..and companies that make fish oil are not required by law to even put fish oil in those capsules?

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa003&articleID=0006CF30-606B-11BF-A06B83414B7F0000

You really need to get off your judgment pedestal. You're not raising a question. You're pointing a finger.

The poster said she was doing what she could to keep herself healthy. It doesn't mean she knows all the details about all of it or has read every bit of data out there.

Just because she can't afford to buy supplements for the poor (who can??!!) doesn't mean she doesn't care about them.

If you're that depressed about the shape things are in, why don't you go hibernate somewhere so the rest of us don't have to listen to your misives about how evil and detructive and terrible we are.

You're no better. What are you doing to help the poor? You're constantly bitching about having to move home with your mom. How much are YOU giving the poor? Half the people in this board are no better than you are financially thanks to Bush's policies. Stop judging everyone for their individual decisions and make the ones that are important to you.

If you are so worried about "human compassion," why don't you come to the GULF COAST and HELP US with the devastation! I bet gulfcoastliberal can tell exactly where to go to help!

are you down there?

Also I do help out up here.

Want me to list HOW?

But, I am just a person, not an immortal. If I consume anything, I will take in those chemicals. The only way to not do that is to stop eating altogether...and die.

...leaving nothing out
not one wren
not one tear
not one star out

Issa

It keeps your resistance up.

You may be right that we've crossed a ring-pass-not. I don't know that for sure though, and neither do you, really. What's left when we can't realistically hang our hopes on a brighter future? There are other ways to bring meaning to things I think. And there are ways to open ourselves to all the possibilities that none of us have even conceived of yet.

To me, the world is infinitely greater, more intelligent and more alive than any of us can possibly imagine. I also think we sometimes personally and collectively have to pass through that "long dark tea time of the soul" (thanks Doug Adams) that leads us to those unanticipated possibilities. Often the transition looks like oblivion, but it's not.

In the mean time, while we move forward, why not take on a large foolish project like caring so much it hurts -- and doing something about it? No one has to know or notice. But it will matter to those few people, animals, or plants that you reach out to. And that surely counts for something.

:shrug:

J.

The best we can manage is to eat as healthily as possible and keep trying. I won't give up. I may take a rest but giving up isn't an option, at least not for me.

I've gotten to that point also - there is so much contamination and we can limit the poisons by our choices - but there is only so much we can do and we have to eat - so there you go.

I don't know of any meat that doesn't have something. I also think it's annoying that some people figure they can buy organic and they will be Ok - and not to worry about what everyone else is eating. But that sort of thing has it's way of coming back to bite people on the ass - like when it turned out that tuna steaks have a lot more mercury than the cheap tuna (which has plenty).

Scientists thought that people living in the arctic could be a control group - for contamination and then found they had the highest levels of all....


Dozens of Words for Snow, None for Pollution

"...Despite living amid pristine ice and glacier-carved bedrock, people like Mamarut, Tukummeq, and Gedion are more vulnerable to pollution than anyone else on earth. Mercury concentrations in Qaanaaq mothers are the highest ever recorded, 12 times greater than the level that poses neurological risks to fetuses, according to U.S. government standards. A separate study has linked PCBs with slight effects on the intelligence of children in Qaanaaq. Although most of the village's people never leave their hunting grounds, the world travels to them, riding upon wintry winds.

THE ARCTIC has been transformed into the planet's chemical trash can, the final destination for toxic waste that originates thousands of miles away. Atmospheric and oceanic currents conspire to send industrial chemicals, pesticides, and power-plant emissions on a journey to the Far North. Many airborne chemicals tend to migrate to, and precipitate in, cold climates, where they then endure for decades, perhaps centuries, slow to break down in the frigid temperatures and low sunlight. The Arctic Ocean is a deep-freeze archive, holding the memories of the world's past and present mistakes. Its wildlife, too, are archives, as poisonous chemicals accumulate in the fat that Arctic animals need to survive. Polar bears denning in Norway and Russia near the North Pole carry some of the highest levels of toxic compounds ever found in living animals."


http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2005/01/12_402.html

What's in there isn't working nearly well enough.

Especially after my blood pressure goes up after reading DU. I wash just wishing someone would have some minor surgery so I could get some leftovers of the good stuff. I'm drinking more water as fast as I can.

Really?

Then how do I set up my plumbing so I can get just the speed water in the morning, and the valium water at night?

mania on the left, oblivion on the right, all on tap. pick your poison...

hell, if someone puts chemical pollution that way... it almost sounds like a good thing! :evilgrin:

can someone filter out the cocaine from our dollar bills while i'm fixing the tap? much obliged.

(it's not about how long you lived, or how well you lived, it's about how often you got a vacation away from living! :evilgrin: he who gave their liver the greatest workout wins!)

"What am I supposed to do? Go ahead and kill my damn self?"

What are you getting at?

This post is alarmist and silly. So what if there are detectable traces of amphetamines in the drinking water. There are detectable traces of arsenic and mercury too.

No one's dropping dead from their tap water. Get a filter, or buy bottled water (if you must).

But quit whining. The Earth is completely capable of being cleaned up. And evolution allows for our adaptation to our changing environment.

Crawl out from under your bed and live life with the rest of us.

I'm sorry, but you are way too immersed in this stuff for your own good. Yes, there are man-made chemicals all around us, some of them benign, some carcinogenic. Yes, the environment is being thrown out of balance and the climate is likely to change.

But chemicals, even "man-made" chemicals are a part of nature, and will go back to nature eventually. Just because something is natural does not make it healthy. Go breathe the natural gases coming from a volcano if you want to find out.

Even with all the crud around us, people are still living much longer than they did 100 years ago, and the odds are that most of us will too. Enjoy life, do your part to try and make it better, and accept that there is only so much we can do as individuals. None of us was designed to live forever, and in a 100 million years, the earth will have shrugged us all off, and you won't be able to tell any of us were ever here.