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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:10 PM
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Olbermann going with the Viveca Novak/exonerates Rove slant tonight.
Edited on Mon Dec-05-05 08:17 PM by Gabi Hayes
They teased the opening with that

too bad firedoglake.blog.com is down

wonder what she thinks about this

she wasn't too charitable towards her the other day

and WTF is up with KO, anyway?
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:22 PM
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1. Keith is reporting like a responsible journalist -not dem not repub
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ucmike Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:25 PM
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2. yeah. wtf is up with fair journalism
that won't convince anyone
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:33 PM
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3. you two don't get out much, do you?
Edited on Mon Dec-05-05 08:37 PM by Gabi Hayes
might want to check around before you call that responsible, or fair, journalism

people who know what they're talking about are calling it BS

not that I count myself among those that do, but I've read enough of those who do that say this slant is crap, and nothing but

you could start here, and read the comments following

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/robert-luskins-source-_b_11529.html
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:42 PM
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4. I form an opinion based on multiple reliable sources
and past reliability. By the way I heard about Bush drinking fermented goats milk ages ago and didn't think it was a huge deal worthy of impeachment. Stick to your sources and I'll stick to mine. I think Olberman is a great journalist and I don't have to have him parrot back my preconceived opionions to appreciate him. However, I admit their are alot of individuals that I don't demonize.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 09:02 PM
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6. huh? what does fermented goat's milk have to do w/impeachment?
you do realize that was a joke thread, don't you?

and I started this thread based on a TEASE, which made it quite clear that the thrust of the story was that Novak's testimony would help Rove

take it for what it's worth

and who doesn't base their opinions on what they perceive to be reliable sources? duhhh

I'll take Hamsher's analysis on the Plame affair over just about anyone else's so far.

too bad her blog is unavailable.

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:47 PM
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5. partial explanation, but doesn't include the Rove aide who expunged
a phone call to the WH, which could turn out to be big:



Fitzgerald is interested in the conversations V. Novak had with Robert Luskin, attorney for Karl Rove. The blogosphere is having some difficulty getting its head around this one. There is no problem here with 'sources' releasing reporters to testify and there is some confusion over why Fitzgerald might be trying to get around the attorney-client privilege that Luskin's discussions with Rove obviously has. But, so far, there are four suspicions floating:

V. Novak can substantiate Rove's claim that he "forgot" about his conversations with Matt Cooper, V. Novak's colleague at Time.
V. Novak' s conversations with Luskin were about Rove's 'forgetfulness' BEFORE he said he 'forgot.'
V. Novak was told by Luskin that Rove knew that Matt Cooper was going to testify to facts that Rove had lied about to the grand jury, which was the reason why Rove wanted to go to the grand jury a fourth time under oath and 'correct' his prior testimony.
a. might do Rove some good in his defense;
b. certainly won't and could lead to perjury charge(s)
c. might not help, since, according to bloggers with legal backgrounds or advisors, if a witness wants to 'correct' his testimony, but already knows that another witness will blow away his earlier testimony as lies, it is too late to correct and perjury charge(s) can still result. But then there is:

Fitzgerald is trying to legally break the attorney-client privilege by forcing Luskin to testify on what he said Rove told him to do to fight back, which might be outside the normal work that an attorney does for a client. In other words, if Rove is/was using Luskin as a part of the whole POLITICAL response to the investigation, that might not be protected conversation.

Like I have said several times, this case will get very strange before it is over. Some bloggers are suggesting that Luskin has hurt his own client by appearing on TV too many times and giving tips to Fitzgerald. Also remember, in a-d above, there is always e. - None of the above.

http://wonkspot.com/wire/
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