Stumbled upon Hannity and John O'Neill bashing Kerry, Murtha, and Dean.

What a circus.

I can't stomach FOX News, but I happened to stumble upon it when I was flipping through the channels and saw them talking about Kerry. Colmes was doing a decent job to start but then Hannity took over afterwards and it became a hatefest with Hannity and O'Neill saying the Dems are against the troops. The usual dialogue.

It was a surprise for me to see the Swift Boat liar back on TV.

They were trying to rip Kerry for quoting the Red Cross' criticism of troop breaking into Iraqi homes and roughing up children and the eldery from his interview on Face the Nation on Sunday. He said they were terrorizing the Iraqis and the twisted it into him saying that he called the troops terrorists.

Anyone else see this crap?

I don't care how sensitive people are about the word terror and all of it's iterations. Give me a break. If you are scaring the shit out of people by breaking into their houses, you are terrorizing them. The word "Terror" is not exclusively reserved to the concept of terrorism. You have Republicans trying to frame this issue that way and I am already seeing weak kneed Dems taking the bait.

Hey Sean if your so worried about the war effort enlist.

to speak to military issues. :sarcasm:

Hell I can't be worse than the chimp.

to criticize Kerry, Murtha, and Dean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_P._O'Neill

:patriot:

Did that fucker get his face burnt off in 'Nam or something? Because the mutant always looks like he's wearing a fucking mask.

And damn it, why hasn't any body investigated whether this pig (whose name is John Ellis just like Jeb and the cousin who worked for FAUX News) is related to the Chimp. How many "John Ellis whatevers" can there be in Texas that aren't from the same family?

lying neocon psychopath makes you look ugly on the outside too.

Aside from Kerry's charisma, eloquence and class, none of which the sqeaky voiced O'Neil had, there was a huge appearance gap. Kerry towered over both Cavett and O'Neil, had his thick wavy hair neatly groomed and wore a very nice suit. O'Neil wore a non-matching blazer and trousers that were short enough to show his white socks.

From the moment O'Neil came out and silently took a seat, followed by Kerry who shook hands with Cavett, he was a loser. The audience cheered Kerry. I wonder if part of O'Neil's obsessive hatred was because Kerry clearly was the favorite. (He also just seemed pre-programmed. Kerry tried explaining that they weren't even on the same type of missions because it had changed - but it was like talking to a wall.)

both pieces of garbage.

Someone should go on there and just play the clip of Nixon talking about Kerry. Expose O'Neill like the ass that he is.

the cultural differences out in the open and to call out the administration for their lack of understanding of the Iraqi people Hannity, Limbaugh and others are trying to divert our attention from the real issue to one of disloyalty of our troops and another Dem bashing fest. I think we need to call them out on this one. It's obvious what Kerry was alluding to. This should be seen as a shame on them- not a shame on us.

It was only a few months after the invasion, and CNN had film clips of soldiers breaking into the house of a 'suspected terrorist' in Iraq.

A very old woman (perhaps a grandmother, if not great-grandmother) was sitting on the ground, guarded by soldiers. She was terrified. Beside her was a younger woman, holding onto her two daughters (about 13 and 15); the woman was trying to shield her teenagers, probably afraid of their being taken and raped.

Beside them all was a young boy, about 7 or 8, so terrified I was afraid he would literally die of fright. These people were surrounded by US soldiers who were screaming at them in English -- obviously these people didn't understand a word.

I turned to my husband and said, "Do you see that little boy? Ten years from now, he'll be a famous 'terrorist' who hates Americans and plots to kill them every chance he gets.

And Americans will watch the TV news stories about him, and ask why he hates us so much.

that show. who really gives a shit? bush`s ratings on all the polls and on all the issues are below 50% of the people who are intelligent enough to answer complex questions. people want answers, they certainly don`t want anymore bullshit.

it's more like 1.5 - 2 million on a nightly basis.


http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/politics/cablenewsratings.htm

Open one of the pdf's to see where your favorite Fauxe program comes in.

They were trying to rip Kerry for quoting the Red Cross' criticism of troop breaking into Iraqi homes and roughing up children and the eldery from his interview on Face the Nation on Sunday. He said they were terrorizing the Iraqis and the twisted it into him saying that he called the troops terrorists.

He didn't mention the Red Cross story at all, din't speak of roughing up children or elderly.

It was a far more sedate statement on getting the Iraqis to be the ones to go into Iraqi households. He simply spoke of how our soldiers who don't speak the language are scaring (terrifying) the children.

What SHAME on the Swiftbotters and the Chickenhawks.

or something. . .why is that fool O'Neill allowed to run free on the cable networks still? Didn't we already find out he is a liar?

O'Neils heart.Seriously though, we need to silence this creep now- he should be old news and he has been discredited. Just goes to prove that Fox will given even lier's and criminals air time.

These goons are so conflicted into this war and their own hypocrisies, they can legitimize (in their own polluted brainstems) torture and invasions while getting into a lather when anyone dares to call them on their obvious contradictions.

Considering how far the Repugnicans have fallen in this debate, no wonder they have to resort to a loser like O'Neill. The party has lost a lot of the "lower military" in the past year and now it's trying to hang on to the "armchair generals" of the flying 101st keyboard brigade.

When someone knocks on your door at 3am with an M-16 rifle pointed at your face...inviting you for a visit at the local police station or wanting to "look around"...I'd call that terror. If I knew going out of my house at night meant risking taking a bullet...that's terror (even if it's on the streets of my own city).

I've recently come to the "revelation" why this invasion is so far different than WWII and popular wars...including the first Gulf Oil war. In those cases we had an objective...we knew what the end of the war would be. Be it capturing Richmond or Berlin or Kuwait City...these were tangible goals. This invasion ceased to have an objective (other than profiteering) after the quick capture of Baghdad...and now has zero endgame. While we fought on the offensive in those wars, this is one of strictly defense (just like Vietnam)...and without a tangible goal and no end-game people have lost both faith and interest in the concept and its inept leaders.

Murtha's statement will be looked back on one of those rare moments of courage and clarity in what is surely to be chronicled as the most repressive time this country had ever faced.