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Guest: Bill Munro: 81 year old self cured cancer survivor!.

- Hydrogen Peroxide is the most over looked chemical used by man. New uses of it are coming to light every day. Bad bugs be they, in your garden or your body, they cannot live in an oxygen rich environment.

The medical industry needs customers. It is in their best interest to treat your ills, not to cure them. Well, there are many cures out there…you just have to find the information that is hidden from the public.

Listen in as we discuss hydrogen peroxide and other safe substances that may just help you to stay healthy.

H2O2 and Apple Cider Vinegar could put a lot of the big pharma companies out of business if people would only pay attention.

Do tell!

I'll be discussing this as well.

show starts now....

The Many Uses of Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Hot Tubs
Check with the hot tub manufacturer to determine the compatibility of your system with H2O2. The average size hot tub could be started up with one of two liters or more of 35% H2O2 until it tests 40 parts per million (ppm). Turn the circulation pump on to distribute it evenly during the next 24 hours. Add enough hydrogen peroxide from time to time to maintain it approximately 40 ppm, 3 to 6 ounces daily.
Additional Uses for Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Vegetable Soak:
Add ¼ cup H2O2 to a full sink of cold water. Soak light skinned (light lettuce) 20 minutes, thicker skinned (like cucumbers) 30 minutes. Drain, dry and refrigerate. Prolongs freshness.
If time is problem, spray vegetable (and fruits) with a solution of 3%. Let stand for a few minutes, rinse and dry.
Leftover Tossed Salad:
Spray with solution of ½ cup water and 1 tablespoon of 3%. Drain, cover and refrigerate.
To Freshen Kitchen:
Keep a spray bottle of 3% in the kitchen. Use it to wipe off counter tops and appliances. It will disinfect and give the kitchen a fresh smell. Works great to clean refrigerator and kids school lunch boxes.
Marinade:
Place meat, fish or poultry in a casserole (avoid using aluminum pans). Cover with a dilute solution of equal parts of water and H2O2. Place loosely covered in refrigerator for ½ hour. Rinse and cook.
In the Dishwasher:
Add 2 ounces of 3% H2O2 to your regular washing formula.
Sprouting Seeds:
Add 1 ounce of 3% H2O2 to 1 pint of water and soak the seeds overnight. Add the same amount of H2O2 each time you rinse the seeds.
House and Garden Plants:
Put 1 ounce of 3% H2O2 in 1 quart water. Water or mist plants with this solution.
Humidifiers and Steamers:
Mix 1 pint of 3% H2O2 to 1 gallon of water.
Laundry:
Add 8 ounces of 3% to your wash in place of bleaches.
Shower:
Keep a spray bottle of 3% H2O2 in the shower. Spray body after washing to replace the acid mantle on your skin that soap removes.
Facial:
Use 3% on cotton ball as a facial freshener after washing.
Bath:
Add 6 ounces of 35% H2O2 to ½ tub of water. May increase H2O2 up to 2 cups per bath. Soak at least at ½ hour.
Alternate Bath:
Add ½ cup of 35% H2O2, ½ cup sea salt, ½ cup baking soda or Epsom salts to bath water and soak.
Foot Soak:
Add 1 ½ ounces of 35% H2O2, to 1 gallon water and soak.

Mouthwash:
Use 3% H2O2. Add a dash of liquid chlorophyll for flavoring if desired.
Toothpaste:
Add baking soda and add enough 3% H2O2 to make a paste. Or just dip your brush in 3% H2O2 and brush.
Hydroponics:
For every 30 gallons of nutrient solution, pre-dilute three to six tablespoons of 35% H2O2 to a gallon of distilled water. Then slowly add to the nutrient solution, stirring gently. If you are mixing up a fresh batch of nutrient solution, pour in half of the water first (preferably with a high purity of essence) and add the H2O2. Add the nutrients to the other half, then gently combine the two halves.

I just use hydro peroxide as a mouthwash substitute. How do you use it to fight cancer? Do you drink it?

or have worked in other cultures but arent given the light of day in western culture

but there are also practitioners who take advantage of those in need by using improper techniques or products etc

speaking as someone who is completely into alternative medicine/energy bodywork
i advise anyone who is truly at all open or interested in any potential nontraditional (again in western terms) procedure or herb or supplement etc to do your homework first before buying or doing anything

there are so many good things going on in alternative world but just like most other enterprises there is lots of bad information and those taking advantage of people looking to alternatives to big pharma or even basic traditional methods because they arent working for them

ive been through much and have seen just about every type of practitioner and i can tell you from experience that things like organic apple cider vinegar or hydrogen peroxide or ozone or liver flushes or chelating heavy metals etc etc can be amazing and are very much legitimate treatments with the right situation
but theres lots of harm to be done - and has been done - by those who arent of the right mind or just out to make money

just as in any other business

i look forward to more discussion with everyone here

on edit: yes there are numerous anti bacterial/viral products that are alternatives to prescriptions but again it has to be the right situation and the right product depending on what the illness is and how advanced it is

as i guess we know the key really is to keep your body strong in the first place with rest and good diet and not too much stress or emotional pain bottled up.
i have had to use the very rare prescription myself
they do have an important place in medicine of course

prevention and all that....

Hydrogen peroxide is not a safe substance and it doesn't just kill cancer cells... it kills pretty much any cell in the right concentration.


Listen in as we discuss hydrogen peroxide and other safe substances that may just help you to stay healthy.

If you put two or three drops of 3% into each ear and lie on your side (so the 3% does not escape), it will lift and dissolve ear wax build-up. The relief is immediate and incredible. And you really do hear much better.

It's also great for lifting spots out of carpets. :D

Very informative show! I encourage anyone who hasn't had a chance to get the archived edition of this show and listen to it later.

I've had a number of people tell me great things about hydrogen peroxide. Listening to Mr. Munrow has convinced me to give his method a try. As for apple cider vinegar, I know from my own experience that it will diminish the pain from a gout attack in a matter of hours. And the best thing about both of these substances is that they literally cost only pennies a day to use.

... will prevent disease also seem to spend a lot of time worrying about how best to avoid the dread scourge of free radicals... and thus prevent disease!

Hydrogen peroxide is an oxidizing agent and a precursor of free radicals. In the course of normal metabolism, your body already produces some amount of this damaging substance (among others), as well as enzymes that detoxify it. There's no reason to believe that putting more hydrogen peroxide into your body will make you healthier.

:argh:

Anecdotal evidence isn't worth much, lets see if there is some scientific evidence to back it up.

Those of us who are cancer survivors work hard to see that there is funding for high quality research to end cancer in our lifetime. This kind of talk that bashes the medical community is counter productive and may cost people their lives.

There are many treatments out today that do cure cancer, but they don't cure all cancers in all people. Its an incredibly complex disease that requires years of hard work and billions in research funding. In addition it also requires participation in clinical trials to develop treatments.

Progress is being made, but it will take a long time because funding of basic research is constantly being cut for one reason or another. Tremendous progress has been made. I can't believe that supposedly intelligent and compassionate people would think that oncologists would rather watch their patients suffer and die for financial reasons. Its a tough profession to be in and those professionals deserve our thanks and support, not bullshit rumors.

If you have some treatment you think is being overlooked, take some time to get the scientist promoting it to apply for research funding through the National Institutes of Health, the National Cancer Institute or one of the Dept of Defense Research Programs. All of these research programs accept grant applications even for complementary and alternative treatments. If he can't get funding, then he probably has a problem, not the scientific community.

All of this may be interesting to those of you who haven't had to live with cancer, but its offensive to those of us who must live with it.

And while you're at it, do a little research to see whats going on, what's worked and what hasn't

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/

"big break-through" so fiendishly hidden by the health care industry, it is also true that people who know shit make tons of money by selling false hopes and confusing people, sometimes those with the most to lose.

if it's too good to be true, it isn't true.

Peroxide does nothiong for cancer cell death, but it makes money for hucksters touting this old, lame story. This rumor has been around for awhile.

It does not work.

Sit bluedawg sit.

http://www.medical-library.net/sites/framer.html?/sites/_iv_hydrogen_peroxide_therapy.html

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All viruses are anaerobic.

People have been traveling to the baths at Lourdes, in southwest France at the base of the Pyrenees Mountains, since 1858 when a girl is said to have seen there a vision of the Virgin Mary. The waters at the baths in Lourdes are believed by many people to have miracle healing powers. Perhaps it is no coincidence these waters are loaded with, you guessed it, hydrogen peroxide. People go there to bathe in and drink the water.

How does one take hydrogen peroxide? You can go to Lourdes, or you can go to a good organic grocery store and buy a bottle of food grade (35%) hydrogen peroxide, dilute it and drink it, or bath in it. If you go to Lourdes, be prepared to shell out thousands of dollars. If you go to the grocery store, be prepared to pay a few dollars. Be sure to dilute it, because the 35% solution will cause burning of the skin on application, or internal damage, if you try to drink it.

If you take it orally, you should dilute it approximately ten drops in an eight ounce glass of water, two or three times each day, on an empty stomach (three hours after your last meal). If you take it with food in your stomach, the hydrogen peroxide will react with the food, and you will not get the benefit from it. Even if you take it on an empty stomach it reacts to the cells of the stomach wall, as well as whatever food fragments still are present, and you receive not only hydrogen peroxide into your circulation, but also oxidation products of H2O2 plus sluffed off cells from the lining of your stomach and miscellaneous food.


That's from the first hit of hundreds in google.

From that little known place: The National Cancer Institute.

Where researchers win the Nobek Prize for break throughs, not treating the sick. In short they don't need customers.

gene therapy shows promise because it doesn't poisen the patients in the process of killing tumor cells. Today's treatments have many side affects because the agents are systemic and affect all fast dividing cells, the good, the bad and the ugly.

Gene therapy is still a new field, but what a break through it will be to treat cancer cells specifically with out weakening the patient.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Therapy/gene

as a three time cancer survivor i realy resent this crap. come in with some proof, show me control group studies that have been published in peer reviewed journals. i've been around an awful lot of people in the "cancer industry" and i don't believe any of them has a stake in perpetuating the disease. this is a total load, complete bullshit. as someone awful close to the subject matter, i'd say you're the one trying to make a buck off of people's suffering.

It is strange that someone who hosts a site that exposes TV news lies would peddle such dangerous bullshit.

Badscience.net

Uh, red blood cells can't live in an H2O2 environment, either. With this logic, arsenic and mercury are good cancer fighters, too. When you're dead, the cancer is cured! Hooray!

(from a cancer survivor).

Colloidal silver kills cancer cells. Why? Because it destroys all cells!

I thought the snake oil days were long over, but guess I was wrong.

but classic chemo agents tend to be things that screw with your DNA, because your most rapidly dividing cells (tumors and bone marrow and such) are most sensitive to DNA damage.

by tumor specific agents, thsoe will not be as toxic as today's chemoptherapeutic agents.

Now that's worth googling.



Sit bluedawg sit.

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - FreeMarketNews.com

"In a groundbreaking study, the Journal of Nanotechnology has published a study that found silver nanoparticles kills HIV-1 and is likely to kill virtually any other virus. The study, which was conducted by the University of Texas and Mexico University, is the first medical study to ever explore the benefits of silver nanoparticles, according to Physorg.

...While further research is needed, researchers are optimistic that nanological silver may be the silver bullet to kill viruses."

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=1401

But that doesnt mean a teaspoon of colloidal silver will actually help you. It will probably just poison you and turn you blue.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html

Dose:
"The normal human body contains approximately 1 mg of silver; the smallest amount of silver reported to produce generalized argyria in humans ranges from 4-5 g to 20-40 g. Silver at 50-500 mg/kg body weight is the lethal toxic dose in humans." http://www.emedicine.com/derm/topic595.htm

"The amount of silver required to develop Argyria is estimated to be 3.8 grams per day. By comparison standard 10 ppm colloidal silver contains silver in amounts equaling less than 1 milligram of silver...which therefore represents an amount approximately 1/500th to 1/1000th of the amount of silver considered to be a risk in the development of Argyria...We could not locate a single case of orally consumed colloidal silver manufactured in the last 25 years causing Argyria in our review of the literature. This is probably due to the low levels of silver contained in such preparations, since only very small amounts of silver are needed for its antiseptic effect...Humans consume approximately 100 micrograms of silver every day in the diet."
http://www.silvergen.com/argyria1.htm


Your Selenium Status:
"...the truth of the matter is that not everyone is at equal risk for argyria...As an example, the EPA RISK studies document clinical evidence demonstrating that a selenium deficiency increases the risk of argyria...Silver bonds with selenium. When the body is depleted of selenium, the amount of silver deposited into tissues is drastically increased. This was conclusively demonstrated by a researcher known as Petering in the 1970's."
http://www.silvermedicine.org/argyria.html


Product Quality
"...a properly made isolated silver at between 5 PPM and 20 PPM has been widely used for sinus treatments with not one case of any type of silver toxicity, and at volumes measured in ounces, not drops."

"In fact, there are literally thousands of individuals who have been taking a properly made, quality silver daily from five to fifteen years with no side effects whatsoever, some of which have been ingesting 8 to 16 ounces daily."
http://www.silvermedicine.org/argyria.html


Most Common Cause of Argyria:
"As Assistant Professor Kamila K Padlewska, MD notes, "The most common cause of argyria is mechanical impregnation of the skin by small silver particles in workers involved in silver mining, silver refining, silverware and metal alloy manufacturing."
http://www.silvermedicine.org/argyria.html


"Although absorbed silver interacts with other metals and tissue proteins, these interactions do not appear to be harmful with the exception of the skin discoloration known as ARGYRIA, a cosmetic problem."

"The most common causes were not from medicinal use of silver but rather the constant exposure to silver either as a chemist, silver miner or long term use of silver cups, plates, etc. Of interest is the fact that the term "blue blood" used to describe Royalty came from the finding of mild argyria in European nobility from the constant use of silver place setting, silverware, and silver cups, leading to a bluish skin color."

"Silver itself has been shown to be harmless to normal human tissue. The toxicity results from the salt or complexes which are used to deliver the silver. A pure silver delivery would be the ideal approach to avoid local toxicity." http://www.burnsurgery.org/Modules/silver/section4.htm


As you point out "But that doesnt mean a teaspoon of colloidal silver will actually help you." I am keeping a open mind on this subject.

don't use too concentrated a solution. we don't want any spontaneous combustions on our hands.

btw. i hope he injected it straight into a tumor. because...

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/MHMI/mmg174.pdf
Ingestion of household solutions (3%) usually causes mild
mucosal irritation and vomiting. Gastric distention due to
liberation of oxygen in the stomach may occur, but hollow-organ
rupture is uncommon when dilute solutions are ingested.
Ingestion of concentrated solutions ($10%) can cause extreme
irritation, inflammation, and burns of the alimentary tract can
occur, and hollow-organ distention and rupture is a significant
danger. Hydrogen peroxide enemas have caused colonic rupture,
intestinal gangrene with gas bubbles, and acute ulcerative colitis.

sounds yummy. so i guess the GI route is out of the question, except for a weak solution, which would never make it far enough to get into your blood stream (not that a concentrated solution would either). so how 'bout inhalation?

Vapors, mists, or aerosols of hydrogen peroxide can cause upper
airway irritation, inflammation of the nose, hoarseness, shortness
of breath, and a sensation of burning or tightness in the chest.
Exposure to high concentrations can result in severe mucosal
congestion of the trachea and bronchi and delayed accumulation
of fluid in the lungs.
Children may be more vulnerable to corrosive agents than adults
because of the relatively smaller diameter of their airways.

ok, so inhalation is out. won't make it far there either. and wouldn't be too good on your delicate, somewhat important, and not-so-resilient lungs on the way in. so... dermal?

Prolonged exposure to concentrated vapor or to dilute solutions
can cause irritation and temporary bleaching of skin and hair.
Contact with concentrated solutions can cause severe skin burns
with blisters... Survivors of severe inhalation injury may sustain permanent lung damage.

ok. so i get it. highly reactive outside its little bottle. but you can always use a weak solution. of course, it'll never make it to your bloodstream, unless you inject it straight in. which, by the way, no sane person would recommend. so where does that leave us? straight into your body cavity? that would be fun.

to be fair. *most* chemotheraputic agents are generally highly toxic. they aren't, however, highly *reactive.* (except radiation, i suppose, which is able to be precisely targeted) so self-treatment with hydrogen peroxide might not work out that well, after all.

ah well. did i mention it's a really *nice* bridge? great neighborhood. and it's priced to sell...

Sorry, I don't mean to hijack your thread but most people over look this as beverage.

In Korea, they drink juices as americans drink carbonated beverages.

There is a great tasting aloe juice, (not like the US version) that is mixed with grape juice with pulp. When I tasted it, I wondered why they didn't have it available in the U.S. because to me it is outstanding. Children would love it too, there is no bitter taste.
http://wjfood.com/beverage/introduction.asp

I had no idea of its benefits until I looked it up. I asked the person who gave it to me, how his stomach was doing over in Korea with the change of diet. He alway had digestive problems and expected some horror stories. Answer none. Zero. Doesn't even burp. He used to burp like a foghorn. He drinks the juice because he loves the taste.

I suspect why it isn't on the market, the pharmaceutical industry.

The beverage industry is just finding this out.

http://www.npicenter.com/anm/templates/newsATemp.aspx?articleid=11547&zoneid=22

I personally think it would be a good investment to get into. It grows best in the desert.

Anyone got feedback on it?

I mean nothing!

In biopsying cancer tumors H202 is a way to get bleeding to stop. It's also a good way to get necrotic tissue to gently bubble ut of the wound. So it is not uncommonly poured into wounds.

The tumor keeps growing while everyone awaits the biopsy, and if nothing else were to have been done it would continue growing.

"The medical industry needs customers"

oh yea, and dishonest cancer surgeons have kept this (old,old myth) a secret. in fact, surgeons with cancer secretly treat themselves and their families with peroxide! (NOT!).:tinfoilhat:

Yea, the medical industry needs customers, and if anyone found that H202 worked on cancer they would not have found a way to fame and fortune marketing that? :tinfoilhat:

Is it credible that any surgeon would know this and not become instantly famous and wealthy by publishing this? :popcorn:

When anyone doctor finds a new way to treat a disease, it is, in the most basic capitalistic terms, in that physicians interest to share that info. not hide it.

It is more likely that any health remedy would be marketed and patented ASAP, than, to think that the surgeon would go on day after day, night after night, operating on sick people with cancer, at discounted rates rather than reveal a big break through.

Sit bluedawg sit.

http://members.aol.com/nicholashl/ukspace/htp/htp.htm

"It had been used by the Germans in the Me163 interceptor, and also for the turbine for the motor pump of the V2."

As a monopropellant it's not terribly energetic, but hydrogen peroxide reacts with pretty much anything, which is why it kills cells--bacteria, cancer, skin cells, hair pigment, et cetera.

"The systemic effects of hydrogen peroxide result from its interaction with catalase in the tissues with the liberation of oxygen and water as it decomposes. One milliliter of 3% hydrogen peroxide liberates 10 mL of oxygen. When the amount of oxygen evolved exceeds the maximum blood solubility, venous embolism occurs. Intravascular oxygen embolism may also occur. Ingestion of dilute solutions (3-10%) produces mild gastrointestinal irritation, gastric distension and emesis, and on rare occasions, gastrointestinal erosions or embolism. Ingestion of 10-20% solutions produces similar symptoms, but exposed tissues may also be burned. Ingestion of 20-40% produces the symptoms described for lower concentrations, but may also induce rapid loss of consciousness followed by respiratory arrest."

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/MHMI/mmg174.html