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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:29 PM
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Pitaki running for president?
On the way home from taking a test today I had it on my local progressive station and there was a news report. We get Cnn radio and the reporter was talking about how Pitaki was traveling to Iowa and later New Hampshire for events and he is not seeking re-election for the governorship. So do you think he has a chance? Has he met with Falwell or Bilderberg or any other group like that? I know either late October or early November McCain met with Falwell so you know he's running too.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:31 PM
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1. it's possible. but why do they have to meet with falwell? why
does he have such great importance? the man is sick.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:40 PM
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4. I guess like with Bush
The fundies control the party now. :shrug: It's sad I think.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:31 PM
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2. A Pro-Choice, Pro-Gun Control North Eastern Moderate From NY!
Oh yeah, he'll get the nomination! :sarcasm:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:37 PM
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3. D'Amato's chosen boy.
D'Amato hasn't been in power in how long?
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:42 PM
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6. Not Long Enough...
...since he's been out of power!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:40 PM
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5. He's pro-choice?
I've heard he used to be a democrat (the centrist type I believe) but he switched. Why did he switch? And he's for gun control? Wow and he's a republican? McCain might have a chance!
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:43 PM
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7. I remember reading that about him,...
...but since he's a republican, HE can get Holy Communion!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:49 PM
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9. Go figure
I betcha the fundies wouldn't like that since he wouldn't appoint fundie judges like Alito.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:46 PM
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8. Let Pataki enjoy his fantasy.
He isn't popular in his own state. Since he's been the governor of New York, the budget has been abysmal and bleeding red.

He's trying the make the most of his 9-11 persona. I think he's ultimately angling for a cabinet post or something that pays well by either the republican machine or private industry like a seat of a corporate board of directors.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 01:04 PM
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10. Pataki, we remember...
Statewide Rights Coalition Strongly Opposes Governor Pataki’s Antiterrorism Proposals

“The governor’s proposals reflect a conviction that it is necessary to suspend basic rights and liberties in order to secure public safety,” said Udi Ofer, director of the NYBORDC. “This is a dangerous tradeoff,” he said. “If anything, the governor’s apparent preoccupation with creating new criminal sanctions has diverted attention from shortcomings in the state’s efforts to secure infrastructure and protect public safety.”

Robert Perry, legislative director with the New York Civil Liberties Union, charged that “the proposed legislation would repeal fundamental protections of fairness and due process long recognized in New York law, and would actually create incentives to engage in unwarranted and wasteful criminal investigations.”

Pace University law professor Bennett Gershman said that the types of prosecutorial abuse “that threaten to derail a high-profile federal terrorism prosecution in Detroit would actually be encouraged under certain proposals in the governor’s bill.” He singled out a provision in the bill that would admit tainted evidence into court if a police officer claims it was obtained in “good faith”; and another that would permit conviction of a defendant based solely on the word of an alleged accomplice who offers his testimony in exchange for a reduced sentence.

According to Jonathan Gradess, executive director of the New York State Defenders Association, “there is a critical flaw in the premise on which the governor’s legislation is based: that a bigger prosecutorial hammer is going to deter international terrorists. Criminal sanctions under New York law are unlikely to deter such crimes. Should there be coordination of federal and local antiterrorism initiatives? Of course. But that’s not what these bills are about.”

http://www.nyclu.org/anti_terror_leg_pr_041904.html

and this:

Text: Remarks by Gov. George Pataki at the Republican National Convention

PATAKI: This is no ordinary time. This is no ordinary time. The stakes could not be higher. Fate has handed our generation a grave new threat to freedom. And fortune has given us a leader who will defend that freedom. This is no ordinary time.

And George W. Bush is no ordinary leader.*

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57276-2004Sep2.html

* hahahhahhaha
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