How Can Saddam Be Tried for Torture if Cheney Wants Authority To Do It???

mondo joe

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Dec-07-05 09:31 AM
Original message

How Can Saddam Be Tried for Torture if Cheney Wants Authority To Do It???

I saw footage from Saddam's trial yesterday in which a woman related being tortured.

How can the US government support this at the same time it is looking to protect the right of itself to use torture?

Why isn't anyone in MSM linking the two?

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Loonman

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Dec-07-05 09:33 AM
Response to Original message

1. Too subtle of a distinction for war whores like

Norah O'Donnell, Kyra Phillips or that stupid airheaded Katie Couric to discern.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Howardx

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Dec-07-05 09:36 AM
Response to Original message

2. Now there's a bottom line if I ever saw one!

That's a very basic, valid question and it deserves an answer. It is in line with questions I've posed here... If we invade a sovereign nation for nothing, who is to stop another country from doing it to us? And wouldn't they be right in doing so?

If we torture, then other countries have the "right" to torture our people too. We can't have our own set of rules while imposing another set on others! School yard etiquette 101 fcol!

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

robbedvoter

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Dec-07-05 09:36 AM
Response to Original message

3. It's a goose/gander matter, silly goose!

Why do you hate America so much?

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Solly Mack

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Dec-07-05 09:37 AM
Response to Original message

4. Google a list of charges against Saddam

then compare that list against what America has done in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I did.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3320293.stm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8103488/

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

liberal N proud

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Dec-07-05 09:37 AM
Response to Original message

5. Because it is OK for the Bu$h regime to be hypocrites

They live under different set of rules than what they expect the rest of the world to use.
:sarcasm:

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

ComerPerro

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Dec-07-05 09:38 AM
Response to Original message

6. Conservative hypocricy and arrogance

Saddam certainly should be on trial for his crimes.

So should Bush, Cheney, Poppy, and who knows how many other administration officials.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

riverwalker

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Dec-07-05 09:41 AM
Response to Original message

7. actually, Saddam's lawyers did

after the testimony of someone beaten by Saddam's people, the lawyer asked "did they use dogs on you"? "did they take photographs"? The answer to both was no.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

mondo joe

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Dec-07-05 10:04 AM
Response to Reply #7

10. His lawyer should call Cheney to the stand to defend the right of

government to torture. :eyes:

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

maxrandb

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Dec-07-05 09:51 AM
Response to Original message

8. Jeesh! That's Easy

It's because his torture is "bad" torture, while Cheney's torture is "good" torture, silly.

You've obviously spent too much time reading that "claptrap" in the Bible about "whatever you do the the least of my brothers, that you do unto me" stuff.

I'm sure even God recognizes that there is "good" torture and "bad" torture. There's "evil" torture, and "saintly" torture. We're the Saintly ones.

:sarcasm:

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

robbedvoter

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Dec-07-05 09:54 AM
Response to Original message

9. We are the defenders of civilization, so we have a duty to torture!

If we'd limit our options, civilization may be doomed! :shrug:

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Double T

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Dec-07-05 10:04 AM
Response to Original message

11. It is called the good old American Double Standard..........

Do as I (the USA) say or tell you to do, NOT as I (the USA) actually DO!!!!!!

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

porphyrian

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Dec-07-05 10:07 AM
Response to Original message

12. You're not really shocked, are you?

Answer to question 1: This administration has never had a problem with brazen double standards or hypocrisy. Why should this subject be any different?

Answer to question 2: Who owns the MSM and who do you think they support?

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

mondo joe

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Dec-07-05 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #12

14. I am and I'm not. Don't know how else to say it. :-(

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Spazito

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Dec-07-05 10:09 AM
Response to Original message

13. Exactly!

That was my thought as well after seeing the clips from the trial yesterday. How is what the witnesses were testifying to with regard to torture different from what the bush admin is currently doing?

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

DU AdBot (1000+ posts)

Sun May 05th 2024, 08:29 AM
Response to Original message

Advertisements [?]

Top

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.