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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:18 PM
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Dear Gov Dean -- Bush knows he's lying ...
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 09:19 PM by understandinglife
... and he doesn't care.

He did it again today, repeatedly, in his speech before the Council on Foreign Relations.

He didn't take questions and folk wonder why. It's simple.

He knows he's lying and he doesn't care. And, he's lazy. Speech done, lies told, time for a bike ride.

How comprehensive are the lies? How comprehensive the planning to tell the lies?

I suggest you take the time to read eriposte's latest analysis of Bush and the neoconsters fixing the intelligence around policy, entitled The White House Iraq Protocol (WHIP) for Deceiving the United States.

Here's one brief segment:

Since the Bush administration policy was to not publicly reveal any Intelligence Community (IC) disagreements, or challenges to claims made by other members of the IC or the Bush administration, by definition fabrications and false or dubious claims were (allowed to be) freely made in public about Saddam Hussein's alleged capabilities, without presenting to the public the alternative IC views (which remained classified, unless they got leaked to the media).

In other words, this protocol explains how Bush and his cabinet stage-managed the run-up to the Iraq war by deliberately cherry-picking the stove-piped, dubious or false reports that allowed them to falsely portray a worst case scenario, while hiding from the public (i.e., classifying) information they received from the IC that challenged those misleading or false claims.

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/006211.php


Just consider one of the consequences of this strategy, Gov Dean:

After all, why would Kerry or any other member of Congress have to read any other intelligence product if the White Paper (October 2002 ) was accurate?
They wouldn't.

The fact is that the White Paper removed almost all the caveats, uncertainties and serious challenges to the WMD claims in the classified Key Judgments in the NIE. In the context of the aluminum tubes issue, as I have discussed previously, the White Paper even removed the alternative views of INR and DOE entirely. Obviously, anyone who read only the White Paper would not have known that the IC community's nuclear experts strongly disagreed with the Bush administration's and the CIA's claims on the aluminum tubes.

The point here is that the accuracy and truthfulness of the intelligence, and the derived conclusions, should not have been a function of whether the intelligence was classified or declassified. Yet, by dropping the caveats and alternative views, the White Paper became a document that was deliberately misleading or false - a document that could be easily used to deceive the American public that was not allowed to see the classified version of the paper. A deceived public could then be pitted against honest members of Congress, to paint the latter as unpatriotic or unserious about national security.

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/006211.php


I realize how busy you are Gov. Dean, so I will be sending you these brief missives, regularly, that contain select items of analysis and commentary that, for the sake of America, I want to be sure someone brings to your attention.

Because, as Nobel laurete Pinter proclaimed today -- "How many people do you have to kill before you qualify to be described as a mass murderer and a war criminal? One hundred thousand? More than enough, I would have thought. Therefore it is just that Bush and Blair be arraigned before the International Criminal Court of Justice."

Agreed.

Thank you for your leadership during the time when each of our fellow citizens must make a decision -- "America, Or Not?".


Peace.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:22 PM
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1. "I want to be sure someone brings to your attention."
Awesome! :kick: nominated!!!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:04 PM
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7. Thank you.
Peace.
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:18 PM
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2. nominated also-good read n/t
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:04 PM
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8. Thank you.
Peace.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:34 PM
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3. Please keep exposing us to the truth
We have been hit with so much spin that it is just getting impossible. First they say Murtha is an good man, now McCain is trying to imply that Murtha is overly emotional and probably senile when he says America must change the course in Iraq. First they make a statement, then they do the opposite. Like we don't torture, well we obiviously do things that may fit your definition of torture but the situation has changed and we are responding to it and what we are doing is not torture in our terms, however please note, people have died during these torture lite sessions; so if someone dies during interogation, they died while being tortured.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:04 PM
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6. Thank you and please see comment # 5. I certainly intend to try ...
... to help spread the truth.

Thank you.


Peace.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:36 PM
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4. We set a POLICY of LYING, so when we lied it was in accordance with policy
We changed the DEFINITION of TORTURE, so when we waterboarded prisoners it was in accordance with laws regarding torture and human rights.

We set a policy of only disclosing the intelligence we LIKED, and so the Senate saw all of the intelligence they were entitled to see under the POLICY.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:02 PM
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5. Exactly. Psy-ops, dis-information, propaganda by our government ...
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 11:03 PM by understandinglife
... against us and many of our representatives.

As with all liars, they've been snared. We just need to keep educating our fellow citizens as to their lies and their crimes.

These "Dear Gov Dean ..." letters are what I've settled on doing between now and election day 2006. Posted the first one last night and sent it today:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5531641

I intend to focus on writing them and posting them. Will read comments, adjust the final message, and send to Gov Dean. I hope to send him a new message at least every other day.

Thank you for your comments.


Peace.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 05:56 PM
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9. Froomkin notes that checking Bush's "facts" is way too dangerous ....
Checking the Hard Facts

By Dan Froomkin

Special to washingtonpost.com
Thursday, December 8, 2005; 1:00 PM

Some American journalists intent on fact-checking President Bush's vision of Iraq are finding it too dangerous to inspect the areas Bush yesterday cited as models of success.

Which sort of tells you the story right there.

While conceding that American efforts to rebuild Iraq have been flawed at times, Bush nevertheless yesterday touted the effectiveness of reconstruction projects in Najaf and Mosul in particular as examples of the "quiet, steady progress" transforming the country.

So how are those projects really doing? Hard to say. It's too dangerous to allow visitors to inspect them freely ...

Much more at the link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2005/12/08/BL2005120801034_pf.html


At least Bush is consistent about one thing ... he always lies.


Peace.
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