If an innocent human is executed, will the executioner go to hell?

trumad

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Fri Dec-09-05 10:47 PM
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If an innocent human is executed, will the executioner go to hell?

Or does God have an exception to that rule called the "shit happens rule"?

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RBHam

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Fri Dec-09-05 10:48 PM
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1. I guess the executioner "takes one for the team"...

But does that clear the state?

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trumad

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Fri Dec-09-05 10:50 PM
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3. Not really....

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asthmaticeog

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Fri Dec-09-05 10:49 PM
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2. The executioner only executes.

If someone's going to go to hell, it would the one who condemns the executee, and only if s/he did so KNOWING s/he was doing so wrongly.

Glad I could help.

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Canuckistanian

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Fri Dec-09-05 11:14 PM
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11. Ah, but who goes to Hell?

The executioner or the one who compelled him to do it? After all, didn't the "just following orders" defence go out with Nuremberg?

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michreject

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Sun Dec-11-05 08:21 AM
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22. Original 6th commandment

6. "You shall not murder!" (Shemot 20:13)

1. This is one of the three cardinal sins in Judaism, for which an individual is obligated to give up his life. This means that if Person A approaches Person B and says to him, "I will kill you if you do not kill person C," Person B should allow himself to be killed, rather than murder Person C.

Seems pretty clear to me.

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Webster Green

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Fri Dec-09-05 10:55 PM
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4. The executioner goes to hell in any event...

It doesn't matter if the executioner's victim is guilty or innocent of the crimes that got him there.

Trust me....I just asked God all about it.

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NorCalDem

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Fri Dec-09-05 11:01 PM
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6. Sweet

tell Her that I want it to stay warm in the Bay Area this weekend if you get a chance ;)

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME

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Fri Dec-09-05 10:56 PM
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5. Depends on which God and which religion turns out to be the right one.

In most though, honest repentance and cleansing will still get ya into heaven. (Like Solomon and other murderers in the bible)

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A Simple Game

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Fri Dec-09-05 11:01 PM
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7. The commandment that I was taught said,

Thou shalt not kill. Didn't say Thou shalt not kill unless it is your job. I am agnostic now, but when I thought I had religion, I felt that the commandments were the aces of religion, nothing else topped them. Not an eye for an eye or anything else. God supposedly thought these rules were so important that he hand delivered them.

That said, the executioner will have a lot of company, the judge, jury, prosecutor, etc.

But like I said, I'm agnostic now, but I am still against the death penalty. Leftovers from being a Catholic in my younger life? Who knows, I like to think it is just the logical way to believe.

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davekriss

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Sun Dec-11-05 02:58 AM
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14. Thou Shalt Not Murder

Funny, when I was a kid I remember the commandment as "Thou shalt not kill", but now I find "Thou shalt not murder". So it's become OK, I guess, to kill (like in Bush's imperial wars), as long as it is not murder. My question: Any one know when God re-chiseled the commandment?

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annabanana

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Sun Dec-11-05 07:16 AM
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21. the claim is

that in the "original" text, the word was murder, and was later mistranslated....

there is no such thing as inerrancy when there are people involved in any capacity

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chat_noir

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Fri Dec-09-05 11:01 PM
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8. Thou shalt not kill

When is breaking this commandment not a sin?

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Walt Starr

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Fri Dec-09-05 11:03 PM
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9. No

because there is no hell.

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Swamp Rat

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Sun Dec-11-05 03:05 AM
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15. You're wrong

New Orleans 9th Ward, etc., August-September, 2005.

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Zynx

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Fri Dec-09-05 11:08 PM
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10. No one knows the answer.

I think in the end the guilt lies with the entire legal system and those who voted for DAs who seek the death penalty.

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TreasonousBastard

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Fri Dec-09-05 11:28 PM
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12. Depends...

Assuming he doesn't go to hell if he executes only the guilty, why would he go to hell if he unknowingly executes an innocent?

Me, I figure that if there is a hell he'll head for it just for being an executioner, but that's just my own thought and I can't really prove it one way or the other.

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soothsayer

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Sun Dec-11-05 02:50 AM
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13. No, it's not the executioners fault, it's the system

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baby_mouse

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Sun Dec-11-05 07:12 AM
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20. The system contains the executioner

Therefore the executioner, being part of the system receives the punishment meted out to ALL members of the failed system.

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upi402

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Sun Dec-11-05 03:31 AM
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16. Absolutely not! The tooth fairy nobs santa in Pergatory

Edited on Sun Dec-11-05 03:31 AM by upi402

that's an absolute certainty.
Speaking of Purgatory. The Catholic church just proclaimed that non-baptized babies no longer go to purgatory.
"Well, isn't that... *convenient*"

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filthyrichkleptocrat

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Sun Dec-11-05 06:05 AM
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17. EXECUTION HAPPENS!

Execution of the innocent is the rule. Many thousands of innocents are executed for every guilty one.

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

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meisje

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Sun Dec-11-05 06:42 AM
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18. There is no Heaven or Hell, only Jersey

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baby_mouse

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Sun Dec-11-05 07:11 AM
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19. Oh, yes, and the judge and jury too

And the newspapermen that report that person as guilty. Think though shalt not kill and though shalt not bear false witness all rolled into one nasty big sin.

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