Supporting clemency for Death Row killers makes one feel LIKE SHIT

Proud2BAmurkin

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Sat Dec-10-05 01:04 AM
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Supporting clemency for Death Row killers makes one feel LIKE SHIT

Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 01:05 AM by Proud2BAmurkin

but opposing the death penalty is the right and moral thing to do.

It feels GOOD to call for the torture and execution of scumbag killers so why doesn't anyone call it "feel good conservatism"?

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not systems

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Sat Dec-10-05 01:07 AM
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1. Having heard Tookie speak on the radio I can say...

I feel very good about supporting his clemency.

He is very effective at communicating a message to
people who are at the fringes to avoid taking the
path that he has.

He also communicates to people who are attempting to
restart their lives in a positive way.

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bigmonkey

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Sat Dec-10-05 01:08 AM
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2. I never feel bad about calling for clemency.

It's because it's not an appeal for pardon, it's an appeal for commutation of the sentence to life in prison. Life in prison is no picnic, and society is still protected from the person's viciousness or violence.

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Warpy

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Sat Dec-10-05 01:08 AM
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3. I don't want clemency because of who he is.

I am against the death penalty because of who I am.

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XemaSab

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Sat Dec-10-05 01:09 AM
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4. Well said

:toast:

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TreasonousBastard

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Sat Dec-10-05 01:31 AM
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5. If you're against capital punishment...

there can't be exceptions.

I'm glad they caught the Green River Killer, and I'm very glad that he is not a threat any more.

But, I'm also quite satisfied that they did not have to kill him to remove him as a threat.

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dcfirefighter

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Sat Dec-10-05 01:45 AM
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6. Nah, you can be against capital punishment

for run-of-the-mill murders, and support it for the mose heinous of crimes. It IS possible. I think that if all executions were public affairs, we'd see them pretty much go by the wayside.

I favor the death penalty for Treason, for example.

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TreasonousBastard

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Sat Dec-10-05 02:00 AM
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7. Then you run into the trap of...

trying to define the most heinous crimes. That's not easy.

Besides, it's not my point-- which is more to the point of someone who is against the concept of the DP but then finds an exception here and there when convenient. You sound like you aren't that much against the DP itself, just some applications of it.

As for public executions...

http://www.geocities.com/lastpublichang/

"On August 14, 1936, Rainey Bethea was hanged in Owensboro, Kentucky, before a crowd of 20,000. The public outrage which followed resulted in the complete abolition of public executions in the United States. This site provides the complete text of the book, The Last Public Execution in America."

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dcfirefighter

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Sat Dec-10-05 03:17 AM
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8. See - if they were public, we wouldn't have so many

Which was my point. I'm never sure about absolutes - that we should always or never do something. And defining the most heinous of crimes would change with the times. I'm ok with that.

I really don't have much of a dog in the capital punishment fight. I generally think it's a waste of money, but it doesn't bother me as much as say, torture, or imprisonment without trial.

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