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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:41 AM
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I saw Syriana tonight. It was great. (No spoiler here) I think
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 02:44 AM by texpatriot2004
I will see it again in the near future. It was very complex; lots of layers to the story. Very relevant to current affairs. They did a great job with this film. It is thought provoking.

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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:53 AM
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1. Me too.
It was my birthday request that we go see this film. It was very complex and I am still trying to tie a couple of things together.

Wasn't it a nice change of pace to sit in a movie and have to think? I also thought it was very well done.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:59 AM
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2. Good Night and Good Luck was a thinking film too...and yes it
is nice to have to think at a film these days.I too am still processing and tying things together from Syriana. It was fascinating.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:08 AM
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3. I thought it was complicated but I thought
I would be able to understand it easier than I did. The more I think about it the more it makes sense. It certainly left me feeling icky and worried.

I had to choose between those two movies so I chose Syriana because I thought it might be better on the big screen but hopefully I will get to the other before it leaves here, we just got it a week or so ago.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:38 AM
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7. That was the whole point of the film
it is complicated, but it all starts from the poor and disenfranchised who are pawns of the rich and powerful to the civil servents her who are also pawns of the rich and powerful

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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 09:24 AM
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14. Yes, I am getting there
but right after watching it I was having a problem putting it all together. It is one of those movies you continue to appreciate more as time goes on, at least that is what it seems from my perspective this morning.

It isn't impossible but complex, one of the things I was having a little trouble understanding was Clooney's character. I was not certain for a while exactly how he got from one point to the other but I get it now, I had forgotten one of the conversations he had that explained it.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 04:39 PM
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23. I understand
Another thing to note is that the relationship between each of the Fathers and Sons. None of the sons were really aware of what their fathers did or vice versa

i.e. George Clooney's character, Matt Damon, the lawyer's dad, the Emir sons, and the poor Muslim father who son became a terrorist


Clooney was supposed to kill the Emir's son who was for the oil deal with China, and building intrastructure in his country, but when the mission screwed up, he was an embarassment, and left out in the cold


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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:36 AM
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6. Sounds good
With George Clooney and Matt Damon I'm sure it is!! They both always do wonderful films.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 09:26 AM
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15. Don't forget my own personal favorite,
Jeffery Wright. He is so terribly underrated I think. Alexander Siddig was also good, they all were but it was interesting to see him without all the Star Trek stuff.
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Speed8098 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 05:55 AM
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10. It's my b-day request also
I'm 49 this Sunday and my wife and 15 year old daughter are taking me to see this movie. I can't wait.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 09:28 AM
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16. YAY!
I turned 52 yesterday. My boys are gone now so it is lovely not to have to see a birthday movie with Ernest in it (although I adored Ernest).

I would be interested to know what your daughter thinks of it.

Happy Birthday Speed!
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Speed8098 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:50 AM
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28. Thanks MuseRider
I'm anxious to see my daughters reaction also. I keep trying to get her interested in politics, but my wife, while a leftie like me, is pretty much apolitical.


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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:10 AM
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4. I want to see it..........
.......even though I don't know anything about the plot!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:35 AM
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5. It was the most powerful film I have seen this year
I believe it was based on a book by Robert Bayer, ex-CIA officer

an older movie before its time was three days of the condor, that almost predicted how we ended up where we are today

Highly recommend Syriania

Amazing how it showed perspective from each characters point of view

It is a film that one has to see from the beginning. The first scene actually paints the whole picture with the gap between the rich and the poor


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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:53 AM
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8. Syriana Movie Poster says "Everything is Connected" nm
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:57 AM
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9. We PLAN to get it in DVD
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 04:33 PM
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21. I'm hoping to donate a copy to the local library ...
Definitely worth seeing. (By the way, was it my imagination, or was Chris Cooper striving for the impression of a certain trigger-happy oilman?)
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 08:08 AM
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11. I'm Sure It'll Be Banned In N. Wisconsin, Like Good Night & Good Luck (nt)
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 08:32 AM
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13. What? Banned?
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 09:32 AM
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17. I thought so here too but
it opened here on opening night! We did not get F911 until it had been out about 3 months and we have yet to get Capote(not sure why since most of that happened not too far from here). Good Night and Good Luck had been out for a while before it came here so I had no hope that this one would be here if ever. I was stunned to see it when I checked the theaters.

So did they really ban Good Night and Good Luck there? We had to protest to get F911 here. Stinks doesn't it?
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:48 PM
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19. Well, Try Hollywood.com - The Farthest North I See It Is In
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 03:48 PM by Dinger
Green Bay. I've written several LTTEs, but no response. I did write one for F911 & it got published, AND then came to Wausau, but no siree, no Clooney here. Sucks.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 04:25 PM
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20. We ended up
writing a ton of letters to our movie provider and to the paper. We have only one theater group, Wallace Studios I believe is the name. We called the TV stations and they put some pressure on them too by calling to ask why they were not allowing it to be shown here (F911). We pretty much made a big stink and since they are the only theaters in town it was effective because people we going to the surrounding, smaller towns to see it.

These are the same idiots who did not bring Shakespeare In Love because they did not think the "rubes" here would like Shakespeare lol.

Work it. One little LTTE will get others interested. You have to do it sometimes or they will just let you go. It really stinks.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 08:32 AM
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12. Cloonsy is really becoming a hero of mine
for his standing up to OLoofah, for Good Night and Good Luck and now for Syriana which I will see tonight.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:12 AM
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26. Well, what did you think of Syriana? nt
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 10:16 AM
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29. I got to working on my passion (woodworking) lost track of time
I will catch the matinee show today. :)
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:13 AM
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32. Cloonsy, What a cute name.
:bounce::bounce::bounce:
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 10:31 AM
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18. Loved it, but
I thought that it was extremely complicated, and I had trouble telling who all of the players were, especially the oil company guys. Alexander Siddig (Prince Nasir) was AWESOME!!! I really hope that this is his breakout role - other than Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. While it was a great movie, I thought that it was complicated enough that it would have made a good 2-part miniseries on HBO.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 04:34 PM
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22. ironically enough, I kept thinking of the Ferengi ....
... during those boardroom scenes. All those Killen guys needed were big ears and pointy teeth!
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:40 AM
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27. Syriana was complicated but IMHO
I think that was the point they were trying to get across to the viewer. The situation regarding oil, business, corruption, foreign policy, terrorism, politics, and intelligence all get complicated. I believe they were trying to tell us this isn't just about "They hate us for our freedoms" claptrap spewed by the administration and their neocon mouthpieces.

As far as the acting performances here are my reviews
George Clooney: Did a great job playing the tired, cynical CIA officer. Throughout the movie he had that look on his face. Great job!

Alexander Siddig: Just like another poster said, I hope this comes as a breakout role for him. I do wish we had more to see from his character. But with the story line the way it was there probably wasn't room. I am a little worried he may get typecast in certain roles.

Matt Damon: I conversation I have said it often. Matt Damon chooses better roles, smarter roles, and better movies than those made by his buddy Ben Aflek. "Syriana" is no exception. Of the two, Damon is definitely the better actor.

Jeffry Wright: Correct me if I spelled the name wrong. This guy is going places. I have seen him in a few other flicks and he has almost a chameleon-like acting ability. He was the one is was most impressed with.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 05:57 PM
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24. It's a story about Players and Motives and Tactics...
The Players, Motives and Tactics are very real and drawn from the news and history. The actual details are pure fiction.

A great way to stimulate debate without getting mired in meaningless debate about the details of specific incidents.

I give it an A+. :thumbsup:
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randome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 06:12 PM
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25. Yeah, it was a real...
nail-biter.

Sorry.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:00 AM
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30. Syriana, Stephen Gaghan, Robert Baer, American Enterprise Institute
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:01 AM
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31. Thanks for the link nm
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