what do you think is behind Bush's ratings gaining a few points?

yeah i hear all the "media" saying he got a huge boost (up to 40% and THATS huge??? )
so what do you think is up with the hiccup of points?

This is no rebound, just a slight, expected statistical aberration.

I have no idea why but something tells me it's propaganda. :shrug:

it's within the noise level.

Within the margin. No big deal.

it's the trend that's all.

We need to Prosecute MSM in a major way, the Evil Elf and tweety, Ol'bialee need to be prioritized according to the Real information they dispense.

Really shocking our media never mentions Bush's sudden increase in approval ratings with a decrease in fuel prices. Once high heating bills start hitting American homes obviously a decrease would seem logical.

yes indeed

And Sir Lies-allot will be polling in the low 20s when the natural gas bills(heating)come in this month. If we have a "LONG COLD Winter," Bush's sorry numbers will pass Dick Cheney's poll numbers, on zee plunge to zee bottom. 'The Mother Of All Gas Bills' and the post Xmas credit card bills, will probably come on the same day and that day will live in infamy. The ever more ghastly elective war in Iraq and the shock and awe fuel bills will spell curtains for the GOPers in the springtime. I don't think the election in Iraq will change ANYTHING there. People in every part of the world are wise to the GOP's electile dysfunction pwobwems, so I doubt the Iraqi people will trust the election count there anymore than we trust the count here! Sham elections do not a happy camper create!

Bush should give up on the "freedom" and "liberty" shtick and just talk about poontang or sumpin else that he knows all about! Something the tiny, gimp, Freeper minds can lock on to, for more than a nanosecond.(nannarsecond in Freepland where the corporate CHRISTMAS elves hang out)

I do have to hand it to Bush and his Oil thugs--they know just how STUPID most of America is. Raise the price to well over $3.00 and then make people happy when you lower it back to OVER $2.00.

The price of gas here is still about ONE DOLLAR a gallon more than the EIGHT years Clinton was in office. Low gas prices?yeah if your a uninformed IDIOT.

People who blamed Bush for high gas prices are now back in his corner because the price dropped twenty cents or so. It's still way higher than it was this time last year but many people will see this little dip and go WHOOPIE! Bush must be doing something right.

I notice however that diesel prices are still skyhigh. That means everything you buy which gets delivered on a truck is going to cost more. Problem is most people aren't going to make the connection unless they own a diesel vehicle.

does seem to bump up or down the polls. The drop in gas, which is still higher in cost than in prebush times, is perceived as a relative "relax" - and thus a deep sigh (after the brief "3.00 per gallon anxiety") and the valence of the negative is eased a wee bit.

Thing that the repubs are not counting on is that before the "tax cuts" (for the wealthy) had a similar effect - but it is a more distant percieved "relief" (to the pocketboook) - the current vote for "tax cuts/relief" is a joke - the vote is to prevent the expiration of existing cuts and the expiration wasn't slated until 2008... so their is little to no value per voters pocketbook anxiety index. The lower gas prices (relatively speaking), yes there is a perceived relief effect. And boy are you correct, thefloyd, the anxiety that will be spiked with heating costs this winter will have a direct anxiety on the pocketbook effect. Given that this is probably the third winter in which we have heard of record prices - and this year we hear a number of the % increase from last year (30 to 60% depending on the region of the country) - if folks were to reflect upon the costs, not just of last year -but going back several years - then the perceived anxiety would meld with real anger. In which case (but given how short sighted we, as a public, seem to be) the decrease would be more profound - if not (only viewed in an annual increase) then the same fluctuation downwards (maybe a little more per region depending on the rate of increase) can be expected.

The poll was taken before prices spiked this past week. So, if the spike continues, expect his approval ratings to go back down.

it won't last

Bush Was Right
Written by: Frank Highland

Freedom in Afghanistan, say goodbye Taliban
Free elections in Iraq, Saddam Hussein locked up
Osama’s staying underground, Al Qaida now is finding out
America won’t turn and run once the fighting has begun
Libya turns over nukes, Lebanese want freedom, too
Syria is forced to leave, don’t you know that all this means

Chorus

Bush was right!
Bush was right!
Bush was right!

Democracy is on the way, hitting like a tidal wave
All over the middle east, dictators walk with shaky knees
Don’t know what they’re gonna do,
their worst nightmare is coming true
They fear the domino effect, they’re all wondering who’s next

Repeat Chorus

Ted Kennedy – wrong!
Cindy Sheehan – wrong!
France – wrong!
Zell Miller – right!

Economy is on the rise kicking into overdrive
Angry liberals can't believe it's cause of W's policies
Unemployment's staying down, Democrats are wondering how
Revenue is going up, can you say "Tax Cuts"

Repeat Chorus

Cheney was right, Condi was right,
Rummy was right, Blair was right
You were right, we were right, “The Right” was right and
Bush was right
Bush was right

© 2005 Pool Guy Music (ASCAP), All rights reserved.

just kidding. :-)

Wars of all sorts seem to help President Crackpot, at least at their inception. :shrug:

Bush's so-called "hiccup" in plus points.

Come on...they are planting stories in Iraq. Don't you think that is going on here also.

We have got to stop trusting the media on ANYTHING! Dems need to wake up and smell the cappacino.

Come on...they are planting stories in Iraq. Don't you think that is going on here also.

Exactly. Exactly. This is their trademark modus operandi from Day One. Remember when bush was getting trounced by McCain in the 2000 primaries and the NY Times wrote an article about his strategy? The "strategy" was to pretend you're winning and that's just what he did.

Well, that and slime his opponent, who now, in true repuke spirit, genuflects when his tormenter passes by.

This is all propaganda BS. Let's see how it holds as our country continues to come apart at the seams.




Cher

Or lame duck bounce.

C'mon, we know the REAL reason--they've (pollsters) gone to the "safe" calling list (sure Republican/* supporters) and will be calling them from now on to prop the loser's numbers up as opposed to going with the "public opinion" which right now is a DANGER to the pro-corporate regime.

Yep, a 5 point gain is a big thing. Democrats would be trumpeting such a gain as well...but remember where it came from and where it looks like its headed.

My reason for his numbers "rebounding" is that he didn't really fuck up in the last couple weeks. No Schaivo, no Katrina, No Harriet Miers...nothing in the news to get people who are borderline to be pissed off rather than to be non-committal. Nonetheless, 40% appears to be the ceiling...the best this regime can do. Unless there's a massive personality change in this regime...the numbers won't improve...but could easily turn downward again when the high fuel prices or more Iraq deaths or more indictments come down.

Remember, this regime once had a 90% approval rating. I'm very proud to have been in the 10% that saw through the bullshit.

and a lot of people are making more money and NO has gone away to most people. Also we in this country do feel we should stay with our President and he looked like he was picked on. I think this happens to all Presidents. If I recall it was the same in the Vietnam. If I recall we were up and down about that war also.

I attribute it to Bush's Victory speech.

The victory speech has caused, courtesy of Rove, the anti-war movement to instantly become a very unpopular ANTI-VICTORY movement, something MOST Americans will distance themselves from, even if they did not agree with the original reason for the war.

And now this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/09/AR2005120901134.html

"Trying to portray Democrats as the party of retreat from Iraq, the Republican National Committee released an Internet ad with white flags of surrender waving over images of Democratic Party chief Howard Dean and Democratic Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts and Barbara Boxer of California.

As the advertisement ends, the back of an American soldier with a weapon slung over his shoulder can be seen watching television images of the Democrats and the screen reads: "Our Country Is At War. Our Soldiers Are Watching and Our Enemies Are Too. Message To Democrats: Retreat And Defeat Is Not an Option."

draped over them, will not stop after the sham election is over on the 15th... The packages that the GOP don't want to talk or think about! How many dead Americans did the "Bring It On" speech cause? The democrats haven't teased and taunted the terra-ists, Bush has! The democrats didn't start the war in Iraq by lying to America and to the world, BUSH DID. Any Bush speech is just another self-serving, pack of face saving PR lies and 60% of the country knows it.

the question was to what do you attribute the increase of @5 points.

Not the question.

Edit...My point was that the reported 5 point gain was an aberration, caused by the Rovish holiday season misdirection effort. Selling the war door to door, will produce a bounce for days, not weeks or months.

The bounce is a mirage... IMO

Welcome to DU, BTW

possibly.

Once they climb back up to $3.00 and the heating bills come in, they will fall again. My heating bill came in. For one month it was $200.00. That's almost double what I spent last year. As Brush's X-mas cards say Happy Holidays!!!!

in the low 30's to high 20's. I have a hard time believing 40% of the people are really that stupid.

to vote on the same poll?

paraphrasing the book title

media

Hell, the fluctuation could be due to kinds of people who answered their phones that day...

3%="HUGE" boost. Bullshit.
"The Economy is on the upswing". Really? Anybody in that sample group hear about Ford, GM, and IBM lately?

It's all bullshit. Now head to the kitchen and getchurself a big plate full of tasty, renewable Soylent Green...

It's a little present before he gets big lumps of coal in his stocking for being the worst little president EVER.

A bunch of people have new part-time seasonal jobs that they are hopeful will turn into real jobs after the holiday season. People are generally in a good mood at the begining of the holiday season. This passes is a week or two when they get tired of standing in long lines and they start to realize how much they have actually spent. Then the rudeness sets in and people start to get cranky and frustrated.

Then, in a couple more weeks, the holiday season...err sorry...the HOLY CHRISTMAS SEASON has passed, the bills start to come in and that goodwill turns very sour. And finally the heating bills start to arrive the HOLY CHRISTMAS season part-time jobs disappear and people realize that they are right back where they started from with the exception of having even more debt.


Chris

They have lied about his past, his present and his future and they are not going to stop now. I find it amusing that people think the same people that have enabled Smirky would suddenly stop.

help bush's cause by making him seem rational, truthful, and correct.