20,000 Troops Hospitalized from Anthrax Vaccination

20,000 Troops Hospitalized from Anthrax Vaccination
by lightnessofbeing
Sat Dec 10, 2005 at 12:43:16 AM PDT
Bob Evans from Newport News, VA caught on to an interesting story which has been for the most part ignored by the rest of reality, including bloggers. Yes indeed 20,000 soldiers were hospitalized after being vaccinated for Anthrax. Pretty horrendous numbers by themselves, but then the Pentagon never told Congress about them.

Since the Pentagon answers to the President and the President never put any public pressure on the Pentagon to release this information I believe the Congress's criticism would best be directed at the President of the United States.

It would be interesting to find out where these soldiers were from and who decided which soldiers to innoculate and why. Would it not?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/12/10/24316/967

Posted on Fri, Dec. 09, 2005
The anthrax vaccine: New questions, weak data
BY BOB EVANS
Daily Press (Newport News, Va.)


NEWPORT NEWS, Va. - The Pentagon never told Congress about more than 20,000 hospitalizations involving troops who'd taken the anthrax vaccine, despite repeated promises that such cases would be publicly disclosed.
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/13368280.htm

Let's hold the pharmas harmless - Population of military/20,000

What the hell does that work out for the population of the US??!!

WTF is wrong with our "trusted" leaders?? This is ridiculous.

Awww... wonder how many stockholders made BIG $$$ on those pharmaceuticals.

Now, juxtapose that with how many give a damn about this story. Hmmm. Not on any major tube networks.
There ya have it. And our "trusted leaders" if you're referring to our Democrats are lucky they can get tube-time on C-SPAN half of the time.

They're not in the majority, period. That's why this is not out there like it should be.

Welcome to Fascism, converted_democrat. It's pretty damn ugly.

got a hold of during the Gulf War 1. And the 100,000 on disability. And the 50,000 who have put in for disability.

And the Patriot Act allows the government to force people to have shots in the national interest.

:grr: :nuke:

for pharmaceutical companies and the Government. Soldiers have no rights because they are government property, at least when it comes to freedom of speech, and meds.

Both the Naval Medical Research Center (NMRC) in Silver Spring and WRAMC are involved in the Department of Defense's (DoD) research and development of an FDA-approved malaria vaccine. One that negatively effected at least 5 people 3 years ago on the Army base of Fort Bragg. Many blame it on the "stress" of these special ops guys who just went nuts.

But honestly, I'm not biting, these guys are trained and practiced for these things. It was not their first day in the field or their first operation. They were not green, but they had all been to Afghanistan. This would require a malaria shot of Lariam or mefloquine.

Here is a map of Afghanistan and malaria (dark red is known to be suffering from Malaria)





We know all 5 were special ops in 2002, and went on a mission to Afghanistan. Connect the dots.

children are "Guinea Pigs" for the same industry.

Keeping the actual number of illnesses secret contributed to a shorter list of government-recognized side effects for the drug, giving patients and physicians a false idea of what might constitute a vaccine-related illness or problem. Doctors are expected to know the full list of side effects and alert federal drug safety officials whenever they see a repeat of those symptoms.

I'm sure this only applies to the antrax vaccine. :sarcasm:

No thanks. I'll take my chances.

Even though I'm thinking the flu itself was let run amok or even encouraged somehow to provide them with a weapon to win in 2006/08.

Hell, we have the numbers to defeat them and maybe even the wit to get the voting mechinism fixed, nothing short of a plague will win the rethugs in 2006/08 - but if only the rich rethugs can afford the vaccine....

Still. I figure with their level of incompetence, we might still come out ahead. In this climate where everyone at the top of the food chain is screwing everyone else over every little bit of profit, those vaccines probably won't be worth buying anyway.

Maybe it will come down to survival of the fittest.

We haven't seen a pandemic since the realization that handwashing does more to prevent the spread of disease than any other thing. Now true enough, when something is an airborn pathogin handwashing does little to prevent the transmission--like TB. TB is still prevelent in prisons, in the Navy, and other places that many people are enclosed in tight living quarters. But TB is an airborn pathogin, and what I have heard about the "bird flu", it is a contact pathogin--meaning WASH YOUR HANDS!!!!!

I just don't trust the BFEE when it comes to this subject. The anti-viral (Tameriflu) that bush* asked for a billion dollars or so to combat the "bird flu" is said to be completely ineffective by all scientists that I have heard speak of the matter. The interesting thing is that KO stated on his show that Rummy has several million dollars of shares in that company. Hmmmmm.

No, I really don't want any "medicine" that these murdering bastards want to pedal. I will trust my good health, common sense, and good hygiene.

kids who all happened to die after taking it? But of course, no connection. Just 12 healthy young kids who got the shot, dropped dead afterward, but no connection.

I tend to believe that they are using Asian people as their human guinea pigs, and I don't trust their motives or agenda. The next "Pearl Harbor" except this time larger without a family (OBL)scape-goat??

Anyone who is not skepticle of every move of these criminals is out of their minds.

:sarcasm:

have lingering effects.

A lot of troops will not go on sick call. Don't ask me why, but they won't. I guess they think everyone will think they're a pussy if they go to the doctor.

Your average paratrooper will go to the doctor under three conditions: bleeding more than one quart per hour, broken leg with bone sticking through the skin, case of the clap. Other than that, no dice.

So figure it like this: for every soldier who was hospitalized, two soldiers went on sick call and four refused to go on sick call.

Remember how his character was passing a kidney stone and was too macho to go to the doctor?


This Raw Story article about a soldier with bad reaction to Anthrax Vaccination brought up that visual.


http://rawstory.com/exclusives/kanson/cordova_ordered_back_anthrax_401.htm

<snip>
“There are times when I am just urinating,” says Commander Cordova with a matter-of-fact attitude, “and all of the sudden a thick fluid will come out, my testicles will be swollen, enlarged and very tender. Then the anthrax injection site in my waist becomes inflamed.”

According to Cordova, infectious disease doctors speculate that the vaccination may have entered his lymphatic system—primarily affecting nodes in his groin.

“When an episode occurs, and it does about two to three times per week, the pain becomes so unbearable I can’t even walk,” the commander told RAW STORY. “I just have to lay down with my legs spread open. It’s just awful.”

:cry:

Remember how his character was passing a kidney stone and was too macho to go to the doctor?


This Raw Story article about a soldier with bad reaction to Anthrax Vaccination brought up that visual.


http://rawstory.com/exclusives/kanson/cordova_ordered_back_anthrax_401.htm

<snip>
“There are times when I am just urinating,” says Commander Cordova with a matter-of-fact attitude, “and all of the sudden a thick fluid will come out, my testicles will be swollen, enlarged and very tender. Then the anthrax injection site in my waist becomes inflamed.”

According to Cordova, infectious disease doctors speculate that the vaccination may have entered his lymphatic system—primarily affecting nodes in his groin.

“When an episode occurs, and it does about two to three times per week, the pain becomes so unbearable I can’t even walk,” the commander told RAW STORY. “I just have to lay down with my legs spread open. It’s just awful.”

This is critically important to get out to the mainstream. This will be the straw that breaks the camel's back on exposing the stealth legislative protections for Big Pharma and the shielding from liability to the public that has been slipped into the mix.

This is so egregiously ugly. Troops are pawns, civilians are pawns.

This is the last straw for me.

I am working on mine as we speak...

Recommended!

What the Fu## are these bastards doing to our troops! And how many of them never made it to the hospital...


You'll remember the sniper in DC- distracting us before the election 2002
he was a gulf war vet, probably had the triple dose of anthrax...

With such concern over our troops getting anthrax that they are willing to harm so many of them, it is odd that they have not bothered to find the people responsible for the attack in the US. It is so weird that the "terrorists" wanted to take out the person that published pictures of Jenna and Barb, and of course congressional democrats.

Thanks for posting this.

I remember that sniper ordeal. Very strange indeed.

"coincidence."

It was -exactly- about this.

It was really good. Someone had anthrax giving it out to people and a little girl got some on a cut (but she was okay) and the government took them (the girl and her two sisters) away to hide them and trying to cover them up. One of the main cops gave the story to a reporter who leaked about it but he wouldn't give up his sources and ended up going to jail.

said NO. (And first responders who received it were having cardiac related side effects, among others.)

They are also going to force the avian flu vax at the population without proper medical trials, and without any liability for damages, all in the name of *protecting America from the terrorists*.


In my opinion, the people we need be most concerned about are running our government right now.

We must pry or otherwise rip their oily gnarled claws off the levers of American power.

Thanks to sabra in LBN:

http://www3.whdh.com/news/articles/national/BOS10563

And guess what? * is biking and Darth is spending his weekend in some undisclosed location while this *drill* is supposedly doing on.


Between perpetual war and perpetual hyping flu shots/flu medications/anthrax shots/Cipro/Tamiflu/smallpox, somebody's getting awfully, awfully wealthy.

Make that 'somebodies'.

When is that supposed to happen?

NEW YORK (Fortune) - The prospect of a bird flu outbreak may be panicking people around the globe, but it's proving to be very good news for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other politically connected investors in Gilead Sciences, the California biotech company that owns the rights to Tamiflu, the influenza remedy that's now the most-sought after drug in the world.

Rumsfeld served as Gilead (Research)'s chairman from 1997 until he joined the Bush administration in 2001, and he still holds a Gilead stake valued at between $5 million and $25 million, according to federal financial disclosures filed by Rumsfeld.

The forms don't reveal the exact number of shares Rumsfeld owns, but in the past six months fears of a pandemic and the ensuing scramble for Tamiflu have sent Gilead's stock from $35 to $47. That's made the Pentagon chief, already one of the wealthiest members of the Bush cabinet, at least $1 million richer.

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Greedy war profiteers and fear mongers.

If so, it might contribute toward explaining (1) the lack of testing about harm caused by the vaccination, and (2) the suppression of news about this.

who was/is the DOD's only contractor for supplying anthrax vaccine.

Maddening, ain't it?

http://www.unknownnews.net/cdd081202.html

Making a Killing:
The Dark and Ongoing Story of BioPort and the Anthrax Vaccine
by Cheryl Seal

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I hope they find out something. :\

http://www.timesleader.com/mld/timesleader/news/nation/13368277.htm

NEWPORT NEWS, Va. - In a two-year span, the nation's only licensed anthrax vaccine maker went from pleading poverty to announcing $100 million in acquisitions, including other pharmaceutical companies and a new manufacturing plant near Washington, D.C.

It's a pattern that's worked well for BioPort Corp.: Tell the Pentagon or Congress that it doesn't have the money to keep going, negotiate a new deal, then count the extra cash rolling in.

Then came Sept. 11, 2001, followed the next month by deadly anthrax-laden letters to members of Congress and others in Washington, D.C.; Connecticut; and Florida.

Tommy Thompson, then secretary of health and human services and the Bush administration official responsible for vaccine and drug licensing, was caught between a Congress that wanted action and critics who feared political pressure would hasten licensure.

"I can assure you nobody is pressuring FDA to approve this," he said in October 2001.

Three months later, BioPort had its license back.

September 2001: Associated Press Article suggests that Battelle Memorial Institute in West Jefferson, Ohio is engaged in "Operation Jefferson," a secret project in which "a new and highly lethal strain of anthrax" was being developed at its labs. Around this same time, Battelle hired an anthrax expert, William C. Patrick III, to determine the ways, means, and results of mailing powdered anthrax through the post. Battelle is reputed to have a "working relationship" with BioPort. http://www.i-sis.org.uk/ isisnews/ i-sisnews13-12.php Battelle and Bioport , who have a "working relationship" are considered the real "chief suspects" by some. http://www.tetrahedron.org/ news/ NR011214.html

September 2001: The first anthrax attack occurs, striking down a man in Florida

http://www.unknownnews.net/cdd081202.html

The article goes on to state that medical experts were unsure about how many of the hospitalizations were vaccine related...

from the article:



from the dailykos post:



(Bold highlights mine)

I agree that vaccinations carry risks, that those risks may well be minimized and under reported...but the conclusion that 20,000 military personnel were hospitalized due to vaccination seems a big stretch.

This may be a case of vague reporting compounded by military secrecy and bureaucratic cover your ass...as well as internet buzz.

(ed for accuracy in paraphrase)

when you follow the evidence trail,you find many examples of cover-up and complicity.
Anthrax Attacks Linked to CIA and Drug Industry
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/isisnews/i-sisnews13-12.php

The CIA's Role in the Anthrax Mailings:
Could Our Spies be Agents for Military-Industrial Sabotage, Terrorism, and Even Population Control?

A Special Report Expressly Prepared for Simultaneous Publication in
The Spectrum and Media ByPass

http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/anthrax/anthrax_espionage.html

OBJECTIONS AND ISSUES
The Defense Department's Plan (In Process) To Vaccinate All 2.5 Million
Service Members Against The Threat Of An Anthrax Attack


http://www.gulfwarvets.com/issues.htm

Petition to destroy Quarantined Anthrax Vaccine
http://www.petitiononline.com/robi2662/petition.html

Special Report: Anthrax Puzzle


http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-anthrax-series,0,6168344.storygallery?coll=dp-widget-news


http://www.gulfwarvets.com/anthrax.htm

for a vaccine injury unless one can prove said injury happened in a very short period of time after said vaccination (generally speaking.) For example, for a person to receive compensation under the VICP "National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program" certain types of injury have to be proven within a certain time frame:

http://www.hrsa.gov/osp/vicp/table.htm

Note how this contradicts what doctors reported in the article:

But military doctors have documented cases where broken bones and other injuries from falling were the result of vaccine-induced loss of consciousness affecting the nervous system - sometimes beginning months after vaccination.

Additionally,

The Vaccine Injury Table

There are three means of qualifying for compensation: 1) a petitioner must show that an injury listed on the Vaccine Injury Table (Table) occurred; 2) a petitioner must prove that the vaccine significantly aggravated a pre-existing condition; or 3) a petitioner must prove that the vaccine caused the condition.

Imagine how difficult it would be to prove a small baby was harmed by a vaccination.

And ask questions. I think that includes vaccines. There's a lot of good data out there.

You or a family member may have had a reaction to a vaccine. If so, I'm sorry to hear that. Overall, though, the data supports that the benefits of vaccination are far greater than the risks.

Most of us of a certain age routinely took aspirin as kids...now, due to the recognized risk of adverse reactions, some deadly, and the availability of other drugs, kids get acetaminophen or ibuprofen.

Likewise, vaccines carry risks. I don't think anyone denies that.

I see your point about liability, under HRSA guidelines, though. The recent legislation in Congress primarily limits liability not safety standards.

Take care.

Most everything else we ingest lists ingredients. Why not vaccines?

Vaccines are helpful in theory, but like most everything else the devil is in the details.

were not generally chalked up to "coincidence." I would also have more confidence in this statement "Overall, though, the data supports that the benefits of vaccination are far greater than the risks" if long term double blind studies were conducted.

In the short term, it's impossible for a two month old to articulate how he/she felt prior to vaccination, and it's near impossible for parents to prove young children were "normal/healthy" prior to such a procedure.

And Daily Kos never said 20,000 military personnel were hospitalized due to vaccination. You somehow read "after" as "due to."

On what is called organized medicine linkhttp://www.medicineculture.com/

Return of mandatory anthrax inoculations sought



http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1387429.php

I'm way unfamiliar with military law and support voluntary vaccination, but realize there may be a "greater good" military issue at play...(?)

:tinfoilhat:

The Army has not budgeted any money in fiscal 2005 for a widely praised chain of centers for treating soldiers with serious complications from military-administered vaccines, even as the network expands this year
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0504/051804gsn1.htm

I'm reading this tragic thread and thinking about one of the fresh buzz words I heard Bush spit out the other day: "The war against humanity". As emperor George would tell it, there's some insane ayrab moslim rejectionist antichrist look-alike somewhere who's waging such a war against humanity right now - along with half a million of his crazed ninj...er...minions.

America listens to fairy tales broadcast over cable and radio. And meanwhile, this monstrous machine of corporate greed is doing precisely that right before our eyes -- waging an all out exploitive war against humanity.

Let's not count the ways tonight...

:nuke:

citizen J

when there was NO ANTHRAX in Iraq!!!

they were just test subjects and moneymakers for the Bush pharma group...
and can't sue can they... this is whats frightening about being a soldier...

even though they are statistcally insignificant,anecdotal tales may be the best clues we'll get as to how many soldiers have been harmed by this vaccine.By the way,this link is from 2000.
http://www.dallasnw.quik.com/cyberella/Anthrax/Starbuck2.html

Australia has admitted it vaccinated its Iraq-bound troops against anthrax without disclosing the side-effects on soldiers sent to Afghanistan.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3509037.stm

Presidential Candidate George W. Bush, US Medicine. Sep. 2000:
"The Defense Department's Anthrax Immunization Program has raised numerous health concerns and caused fear among the individuals whose lives it touches. I don't feel the administration's anthrax immunization program has taken into account the effect of this program on the soldiers in our military and their families. Under my administration, soldiers and their families will be taken into consideration."
what a crock of s*$%