FBI put PEACEFUL PROTESTORS in terrorism files!!!

FBI put peaceful protesters in terrorism files

By Anslee Willett
COLORADO SPRINGS GAZETTE

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - The names and license plate numbers of about 30 people who protested three years ago in Colorado Springs were put into FBI domestic-terrorism files, the American Civil Liberties Union Foundation of Colorado says.

The Denver-based ACLU obtained federal documents on a 2002 Colorado Springs protest and a 2003 anti-war rally under the Freedom of Information Act.

ACLU legal director Mark Silverstein said the documents show the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force wastes resources generating files on "nonviolent protest."

"These documents confirm that the names and license plate numbers of several dozen peaceful protesters who committed no crime are now in a JTTF file marked 'counterterrorism,'" he said. "This kind of surveillance of First Amendment activities has serious consequences. Law-abiding Americans may be reluctant to speak out when doing so means that their names will wind up in an FBI file."

http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/nation/13376953.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

WATCH WHAT YOU SAY.....WATCH WHAT YOU DO!!!

The motto for this administration....

and hasn't the miadministration already established precedent that terrorists do not receive a fair trial, can be tortured, and get no rights?

Awesome.



What's that sound? Oh, it's just the founding fathers turning over in their graves.

Such a person, thank you patriot act, can be arrested and detained forever without trial or lawyer. We saw it happen to Padillo.

Citizenship means nothing to BushCo. They are anti-American in concept.

"Law-abiding Americans may be reluctant to speak out when doing so means that their names will wind up in an FBI file." Now that the UK has actually changed their laws to stifle dissent, I see this as the handwriting on the wall of things to come here in the US. With the ramping up of the Patriot Act and virtual control of the Supreme Court, "law abiding" is just one pen stroke away from "law breaking".

rights under the Constitution and Bill of Rights. This is McCarthyism ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!! These are SAD TIMES for American Democracy and don't we dare go around telling other countries how to set up a Democratic Government. We are failures of our own purported democratic system of government.

bastards

if there exits files on her/him?

e-mail or snail mail and request general details of any said files. The FBI will happily inform you of your current files and if none exsist they will be happy to create one for you.

How bad are the government’s lists? 30,000 challenged being on the government’s terrorist watch list, and all but 60 won, that means 29,940 people should not have been on the list. And on the FBI’s central immigration file, there are mistakes in two out of every five cases. World Peace Herald. 12/8/05. 30,000 people sought removal from terror watch list. Nearly 30,000 airline passengers in the past year asked the Homeland Security Dept. to remove them from terrorist watch lists, and all but about 60 were successful. The list of supposed possible terror suspects distributed to airlines for pre-flight checks is now 80,000 names long, a Swedish newspaper reported, citing European air industry sources. Numerous cases of mistaken identity have arisen from the list, as have claims of political misuse against nonviolent activists. http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20051208-110238-9495r The New Standad. 12/9/05. FBI Database Often Wrong on Immigrants’ Status, Study Finds. The nation’s central immigration-status database frequently gives police officers wrong information, unfairly complicating matters for two out of five accused suspects and taxing local law enforcement resources, according to a study released yesterday. http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/2664 (A little self-promotion, I originally posted these, plus the article that started this thread at my blog, 'If you knew...' on GNN, http://mwm.gnn.tv/blogs/11247/If_you_knew_12_9_05

There has been no more discussion of this topic for over an hour, so I will assume it has dried up, but if anyone wants to discuss this further, contact me at the aforementioned web site. With all these examples, maybe the government just shouldn't be allowed to make lists.

There are other warning signs that the FBI is off the leash. In February 2004, the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force issued subpoenas for information on an anti-war meeting held at the Des Moines, Iowa, campus of Drake University. The subpoena demanded “all records of Drake University campus security reflecting any observations made of the November 15, 2003, meeting, including any records of persons in charge or control of the meeting, and any records of attendees.”

The feds also subpoenaed four anti-war activists, including the leader of the Catholic Peace Ministry, to compel them to testify before a grand jury. After controversy arose over the subpoenas, the feds issued a new subpoena muzzling Drake University officials from making any public comments about the prior subpoenas. The feds also demanded “information about leaders of the National Lawyer Guild’s Drake University chapter, the location of NLG’s local offices, its membership rolls, and any annual reports issued since 2002.” The president of the guild, Michael Ayers, complained, “The law is clear that the use of the grand jury to investigate protected political activities or to intimidate protesters exceeds its authority.”

According to several experts, this was the first time in decades that the feds had issued such a subpoena to a university. The feds lost control of the spin on the investigation and, after widespread criticism, canceled the Drake University subpoenas. There is no way to know how many other subpoenas may have been quietly complied with by colleges or other organizations that eschewed a public confrontation with the feds.

The following week, two U.S. Army Intelligence agents descended upon the University of Texas law school in Austin. They entered the office of the Journal of Women and the Law and demanded that the editors turn over a roster of the people who attended a recent conference on Islam and women. The editors denied having a list; the behavior of one agent was described as intimidating.

http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0508c.asp

"This kind of surveillance of First Amendment activities has serious consequences. Law-abiding Americans may be reluctant to speak out when doing so means that their names will wind up in an FBI file."

They are trying to scare us away.

They probably have a picture of me giving the pResident the finger
when he came to Dallas a few years ago.

If you are listening fbi I would like a copy.

-vote Republican
-love war
-never question anything the government does
-not see any difference between Bush and Jesus
-be an aggressive evangelical Christian
-hate gays
-ignore every part of the Constitution except the 2nd Amendment
-hate Clinton

i remember reading that they had a seminar for law enforcement and agents-where some were disturbed when they were instructed that our forefathers and mothers would be considered terrorists today. The founders of our country are now considered terrorists! This thread is also in LBN and as I stated there, some of the thickest files are those of Eleanor Roosevelt and Jane Addams who formed the WPO. These women were part of the Hull House project in Chicago who worked for labor rights. Helping immigrants with learning how to read and setting up day care. Apparently, cross-dresser J. Edgar Hoover had a real problem at that time with promoting peace and labor. He destroyed so many lives for all of the wrong reasons. It seems to the multi-industrial complex war is good and peace is bad. Money (no matter how it is attained) is good and promoting fair wages, the environment, families is bad. Nothing changes.

Nothing new about this. Do some research into the history of previous fibbie programs like cointelpro.I'd be pretty sure I've got a fibbie dossier as a former member of VVAW.Soon they'll drag the CIA into it and we'll have to do the Church committe hearings all over again.There's nothing in the world like frightwingers for abject paranoia