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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:13 PM
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Rumsfeld: Terrorists Can Win Only in U.S., Media

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Dec2005/20051209_3595.html


Rumsfeld: Terrorists Can Win Only in U.S., Media


WASHINGTON, Dec. 9, 2005 – Enemies of a free Iraq recognize they can't win against the United States and the coalition on the battlefield, and the only way they can hope to win is in Washington, D.C., and through American public opinion, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Dec. 8.

"They can't win over there," Rumsfeld said on PBS' "News Hour With Jim Lehrer." "The only place they can win it is in Washington, D.C., and they know that. They are working on it, and they are working it skillfully."

In addition, the secretary said, "they lie" and use the media to circulate their misinformation. He cited false stories circulated by terrorists, including one about a Koran being flushed down a toilet at the detention center in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Several people died in riots that followed in Afghanistan, reportedly killing 16 and injuring more than 100 people.

Rumsfeld reiterated a point he made earlier this week: that journalists need to be more even-handed in their reporting and ensure they tell the whole story of what's happening in Iraq.



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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:19 PM
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1. Love that quote:
Rumsfeld reiterated a point he made earlier this week: that journalists need to be more even-handed in their reporting and ensure they tell the whole story of what's happening in Iraq.

For once I'm in total agreement with him. Let America see the names and faces of all the American soldiers AND Iraqi civilians that have died over there in the last 2 years. For the sake of even-handedness, naturally. And for that matter,let's just go ahead and get all the details of Cheney's Energy Task Force. Gotta get the whole story, ya know.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:19 PM
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2. stabbed fron behind theory
that's how the nazis started their propaganda...
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:27 PM
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3. Rumsfeld is the terrorist. Who are we kidding?
n/t
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:29 PM
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4. Soooooo, the terrorists who drove the Brits out of the 13 colonies
were lucky there was no CNN, AA, or MSNBC? The guy makes me want to vomit.

Wolfowitz on CSPAN... beware.
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:33 PM
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5. But I thought we were fighting them over there,
so we wouldn't have to fight them over here.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:41 PM
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6. We tried to get them to come over here to fight.... but Saddam
wouldn't let them come... so we decided to fight them over there instead.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 03:46 PM
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7. What they deny, the opposite of what they assert
and what they accuse others of doing. Hence, MendacityCentral.
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Boomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 04:00 PM
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8. Spinning in circles
We're fighting for freedom with the war in Iraq.

But if we actually USE that freedom for expressing dissent, then we're undermining that fight.

So evidently we're fighting for the freedom to refrain from dissent.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 04:02 PM
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9. Censored compliant media needs to report progress in Iraq
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 04:15 PM by teryang
The reporting on the war is already so one sided and subservient to the government and it isn't good enough for von Rumsfeldt.

We do not see the dead soldiers, the dead civilians, the dead women nor the dead children. We do not see the effects of the millions of tons of bombs we are dropping on Iraq. The overwhelming majority of Iraqis want us to leave, something the media almost never mention.

This morning CSPAN had military call ins only to report "progress" in Iraq and criticize the "defeatest media." The fact that no criteria show "progress" in Iraq is irrelevant. Coordinating the resurgent neocon propaganda campaign is uppermost.

The bombing campaign and its unreported casualties not only lacks tactical effectiveness but is strengthening the insurgency. The media no longer report on the number of attacks per day because it is vastly increased.

The major Iraq parties called on the US to set a deadline to leave Iraq.

Hidden in Plane Sight: U.S. Media Dodging Air War in Iraq

By Norman Solomon

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11258.h...

12/09/05 "ICH" -- -- The U.S. government is waging an air war in Iraq. “In recent months, the tempo of American bombing seems to have increased,” Seymour Hersh reported in the Dec. 5 edition of The New Yorker...

...So, according to the LexisNexis media database, how often has the phrase “air war” appeared in The New York Times this year with reference to the current U.S. military effort in Iraq?

As of early December, the answer is: Zero.

And how often has the phrase “air war” appeared in The Washington Post in 2005?

The answer: Zero.

And how often has “air war” been printed in Time, the nation’s largest-circulation news magazine, this year?

Zero.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11162.h...

Where is the Iraq war headed next?

By Seymour M. Hersh


The American air war inside Iraq today is perhaps the most significant—and underreported—aspect of the fight against the insurgency. The military authorities in Baghdad and Washington do not provide the press with a daily accounting of missions that Air Force, Navy, and Marine units fly or of the tonnage they drop, as was routinely done during the Vietnam War. One insight into the scope of the bombing in Iraq was supplied by the Marine Corps during the height of the siege of Falluja in the fall of 2004. “With a massive Marine air and ground offensive under way,” a Marine press release said, “Marine close air support continues to put high-tech steel on target. . . . Flying missions day and night for weeks, the fixed wing aircraft of the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing are ensuring battlefield success on the front line.” Since the beginning of the war, the press release said, the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing alone had dropped more than five hundred thousand tons of ordnance. “This number is likely to be much higher by the end of operations,” Major Mike Sexton said. In the battle for the city, more than seven hundred Americans were killed or wounded; U.S. officials did not release estimates of civilian dead, but press reports at the time told of women and children killed in the bombardments.



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